Who could beat the Marciano bunch...

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  1. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    49 Win 49–0 Archie Moore
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    48 Win 48–0 Don Cockell
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    47 Win 47–0 Ezzard Charles
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    46 Win 46–0 Ezzard Charles
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    45 Win 45–0 Roland La Starza
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    44 Win 44–0 Jersey Joe Walcott
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    43 Win 43–0 Jersey Joe Walcott
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    38 Win 38–0 Joe Louis
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    ...quicker?

    Rocky beat those title fighters plus Joe Louis in a total of 74 rounds, which is an avarage of 9.25 rounds.

    Who do you see beating them quicker?
     
  2. janitor

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    Logically you would expect another great, to fare better against some, and worse against others.

    The point being that nobody has everything.
     
  3. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    Not that it would be very fair, but what about a young fresh Povetkin?
     
  4. George Crowcroft

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    I struggle to see Cockell, LaStarza, Walcott and Moore lasting so long vs a prime Tim Witherspoon....
     
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    Tyson
     
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  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Most of Povetkin's more important fights went to the cards, so he is probably not a good shout.
     
  7. janitor

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    I don't!
     
  8. SerbianLoudmouth

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    Foreman/Ali and maybe Liston.
     
  9. George Crowcroft

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    You think Cockell and LaStarza go nine and eleven rounds respectively, with the version of Tim who fought Holmes, Tillis, Page or Pinky? They'd be lucky to see six imo...
     
  10. Gazelle Punch

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    I don’t see Tim beating Moore or Walcott or Charles
     
  11. George Crowcroft

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    I wouldn't put money on him beating Charles, but he could certainly beat the other two. It's not like they were leagues above Witherspoon as heavyweights, and they'd be at massive size disadvantages. Neither have chins as good as Charles' either.
     
  12. janitor

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    At the risk of stating the obvious, almost every world class opponent that Witherspoon fought, lasted the distance.

    Why would you imagine that he was going to simply blow out these guys?
     
  13. Seamus

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    I think Fran's Botha has a serious chance.

    That's a paltry crew by modern standards. Old, shopworn non-athletes.
     
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  14. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    We all know Witherspoon was an ATG HW puncher, so thats not fair.
    Well, I see Herbie Hide for a fighter with a lower weight doing a fantastic job here. To be honest, I see the 205 Evander Holyfield doing it in less than 50 rounds (< 7 rounds avr).
    Did you know Evander Holyfield was one of the hardest HW punchers ever?
     
  15. George Crowcroft

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    At the risk of staying the obvious, almost every world class opponent Witherspoon fought, was 20-30lbs (at least) bigger than Cockell or LaStarza. And he stopped Bruno, who was certainly better than those two. As well as being much bigger.

    Because he was about 40lbs heavier, 5" taller with a much longer reach, plus he's technically sound, capable of applying excellent aggression and has clearly has a huge punch.

    Why do you think they make 9 or 11?
     
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