Who could beat this version of Pac?

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who could beat Manny Pacquiao at 126 pounds with 2009 Pac skills?

    I don't see anybody of last 40 years who could beat Pac if he stayed at Featherweight.

    It was great to see Pac move up in weight, but as a result we never got to see a fully skilled Pac at his natural weight.
     
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  2. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Theres no such thing.
     
  3. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who would beat that version of Pacquaio?


    I am going to say.. 2021 testing.
     
  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pernell Whitaker possibly ?
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

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    Marquez, for a start. Actually, there's quite a few who could - guys who I think would, now - but I only think three would. Saddler, Sanchez and Armstrong. Pacquiao's skillset which he showed in the De La Hoya and Cotto fights was incredible. He could out-box Saddler while painting him with ridiculously hard counters, and he could draw the lead from Sanchez - but I highly doubt that, TBH. I think Sanchez still counters him on the way in and ties him up. Armstrong is the only one who'd I'd put money on but this fighter would have a chance vs any featherweight who ever lived. Shame, this verison of Pacquiao never existed.
     
  6. George Crowcroft

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    Whitaker would, but Sweet Pea was a lightweight.
     
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  7. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Marquez fought a 2004 Pac to a draw. He couldnt beat a 2009 Pac at 126 pounds.
     
  8. George Crowcroft

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    Marquez should've scored a clear decision over Pacquiao in 2011. He absolutely could've beaten a 2009 Pacquiao.
     
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  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Could he do it at 126 pounds that's the premise of the thread. Who could beat a fully skilled Pac at his natural weight. That's the actual question presented in the OP.
     
  10. Ted Spoon

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    The question is assumptive.

    The more polished Pacquiao may have actually been less effective (against certain fighter's) than the balls-to-the-wall version.

    Against Floyd for instance, Manny's best chance would be to fight like he did as a younger man. If you can't out-think than you have to try and overwhelm.
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

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    Yes he could.
     
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  12. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    You cant go balls to the wall when you're fighting guys twice your size which is what Pac was doing ever since he started campaigning at the higher weights.
     
  13. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's possible, but I disagree. We saw what happened when Pac and Marquez fought at 126 pounds. The moment Pacs left glove remotely touched Marquezs face, Marquez took a 8 count on his ass.

    Once they moved up and especially at 147 Marquezs larger frame (you see it in the shoulders and back) allowed him to take Pacs punch a lot better and he wasnt taking a seat every time Pacs left hand touched him.
     
  14. miniq

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    Fury would decapitate him
     
  15. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is true. He had to use the ring more. Work that right hook.

    Still, in absolute terms, the Pacquiao who swarmed Barrera might just be the most potent version.
     
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