Who Could Possibly KO Oliver Mccall

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  1. Ali4life

    Ali4life Member Full Member

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    figured I do this post pertaining to a previous one.out of the punchers I will list who would have the most chance if at all ko Mccall who was known for having a solid chin

    The punchers I pick for this are:

    Rocky Marciano
    Jack Dempsey
    George Foreman
    Earnie Shavers
    Sonny Liston
    Joe Frazier
     
  2. Ali4life

    Ali4life Member Full Member

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    We'll also add Joe Louis and Max Baer in that mix
     
  3. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    None of those men hit harder than Lennox, Tyson or Bruno well maybe Shavers. I'd give Shavers the best shot

    But supposedly McCall went 300 rounds with Tyson and was never down. That and the fact he let Lennox have free shots. You wouldn't pick any of them
     
  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Its not so much who could do it, as what it would take to do it.

    It might depend more upon some slightly unusual circumstances unfolding, than the fighter you fielded to do it. It would happen when McCall made a mistake, or was simply unlucky. Also, a higher level of activity on McCaslls part would render it more likley.

    If I had to pick a name, then perhaps Joe Louis might be the most likley to arive at the formula by default. The fighters with the best chance, would be the finishers most likley to hit him with something he didn't see coming.
     
  5. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    2 other points, 1 is McCall is actually pretty skilled as a boxer, good technique and counter punching, a bigger punching, better conditioned, less talented version of Toney.

    Second point is if you take risks against McCall he could knock you out, he's ko'd Lennox, Maskeev, Seldon and Akinwande, that's 4 world champions. Very very strong big explosive puncher

    Lennox pretty much did that and he didn't go down

    Has McCall ever been down? :huh
     
  6. Flea Man

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    Louis. He is faster than anyone McCall faced, and will hit him more regularly than anyone else IMO. Still, McCall was extremely tough, that would be an outside bet.
     
  7. Flea Man

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    I think Lewis was pulling his punches towards the end. Despite crying, McCall had his hands up more often than not and was taking the sting off some of them shots. If Lewis had been completely merciless then he would've banged him out IMO, but it would've been a pretty hollow stoppage.
     
  8. PowerPuncher

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    I did think that in the past but he did throw some venomous punches, whether they were his best is another matter. Lennox said after he thought McCall was setting a trap so he may have been cautious. It's a shame for Lennox he fought that version of McCall, a shame for McCall too

    There's no doubt Louis hits him with that speed, although I'd question if he's quicker than Tyson, don't think so, we know Tyson didn't take it easy on sparring partners.

    I wouldn't be surprised at all to see McCall floor Louis or Dempsey with a quick right hand counter
     
  9. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    While i agree that McCall is not some talentless tough journeyman but comparison with Toney, PP?!:admin

    What do they have in common?
     
  10. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    That's very possible.
     
  11. PowerPuncher

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    On the backfoot his shoulder roll, jab, use of angles, head movement and right hand counters. Ofcourse he isn't as talented at using those skills but they are similar techniques imo but McCall doesn't too similar going forward, he does have a nice bolo punch though.

    The McCall Seldon fight is worth a watch if you haven't seen it, it's on youtube
     
  12. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Still too big of a stretch for me.

    Toney's style for me is much closer to Mayweather or someone like Manny Ortiz.

    I've seen it.

    Nice fight.

    Seldon was touted as a good prospect. Good jab.

    McCall came on strong in the later rounds trailing on the cards.

    McCall-Tyson in the 90's would've been interesting.
    Or McCall-Tua.
     
  13. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    McCall's iron jaw was the best part of his arsenal. Any puncher would be hard pushed to score a clean ko on him. I do think that many would punish him to the point of him quitting or being rescued by his corner though.
     
  14. Lester1583

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    I'd say probably only Tyson with his combination of speed, power, skills and chin has the best chance to keep McCall under constant pressure and to take anything McCall could throw in return to possibly somehow stop McCall.
     
  15. salty trunks

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    Very funny. Mcall is pretty talentless. He can throw a decent righthand and take it as good as anyone Ive ever seen and thats what really kept him in fights and got him those wins against paper champions not so much his skills. The only time he counterpunched was when he faced Lewis because Steward taught him to throw that shot.
    The Maskaev fight was a fluke caught him cold. Koing Seldon is no big task especially late and the Lewis fight we all know what happened there with the haymaker.

    Mcall is no where close to the skills of James Toney. I think Lennox Lewis was going to knock him out in the second fight. No way a fighter can continue to take the sustained shots he was taking and thats why he quit. Bruno hit him pretty good too and couldnt stop him but he couldnt stop Bruno either who was walking death in the late rounds.

    Mcall is more comparable to Ross Purrity than James Toney. A guy that had a bit more skills than Purrity and could hit a little harder and thats what gave him the advantage because most of the time Mcall was behind on the cards even in his wins by stoppage. Both Akindwande and Seldon were come from behind wins and both of those guys had questionable stamina late in fights.