Who decides P4P top ten?........

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Guy, Jan 19, 2009.


  1. Guy

    Guy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I always believed it was the general consensus across the boxing community which was slightly naieve of me.I live in England and regularly buy a weekly magazine called Boxing News which reports on the fights which have taken place across the world and one called Boxing Monthly which features fights from over the month and upcoming previews, ideal if I dont want the weekly one every week.They have their P4P's and all the websites I read have theirs.
    It's become apparent that many people on ESB swear by The Rings P4P, now i've only bought the Ring once or twice mainly because it's a fiver and a lot of the fights are old news by the time it comes out over here.There are some good articles in it and I know that it's owned by Golden Boy, so there are 'Boxers in the boardroom' so to speak but why is their list considered the blueprint of P4P lists
    At the moment there list differs to all the lists I have seen, i'm sure there are more they are just the ones i've looked at
    Cheers
     
  2. The rings p4p top 10 is decided by Oscar...
     
  3. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ring is not and should not be the be-all, end-all of P4P lists.

    However, especially among the less educated boxing fans, it is their only source and truly the 'bible of boxing'...that is taking their marketing gimic too far.

    That said, Ring is a solid mag and a very good measuring stick nowadays. In the past, they have been caught for fraudulent rankings and they did have an anti-European bias in the 90's. Now they are apparently well run under GBP, and were well run before Oscar took over as well.
     
  4. Guy

    Guy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I find it quite bizarre that loads of people suddenly hold up the Ring rankings like they've been written by the Gods of Boxing!:patsch
     
  5. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ^^ its because the ring ratings are done by a panel..come one, which other ratings is being done by a panel that is there for more than a decade..

    i also believe that ratings done by a panel is more credible than the one done a bert sugar in his 50 greatest.
     
  6. Guy

    Guy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who's on the holy panel then ? Because many other boxing publications and sites feature
    different rankings to Oscars 'The bible of boxing'
     
  7. roly

    roly Boxing Addict Full Member

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    no 2 p4p lists will be the same, because it's so subjective, but the rings as good as any and better than a lot of them. i think the ring belt however is THE belt and helps distinguish who is the real champ of each division.
     
  8. King Dan

    King Dan Golovkin Full Member

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    Agreed.

    In general, The Ring recognizes the real champ in each division and their ratings are pretty damn good.

    Pfp and divisional ratings are subjective and the people can sense when something isn't right.

    The only ratings that suck are the WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO ratings.
     
  9. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  10. roly

    roly Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i've just copied this off another forum


    "The Ring Ratings are compiled by the magazine’s editorial board, with the participation of The Ring Ratings Panel of boxing journalists from around the world."

    Mark Abrams 15rounds.com
    Carlos Arias Orange County Register
    Eric Armit British Boxing Yearbook
    Nick Charles Showtime
    Brian Doogan London Sunday Times
    Coyote Duran doughouseboxing.com
    Margaret Goodman, M.D. secondsout.com
    Steve Farhood Showtime
    Doug Fischer maxboxing
    Lee Groves Compubox
    Jack Hirsch Boxing News
    Michael Hirsley Chicago Tribune
    Keith Idec Herald News of New Jersey
    Carlos Irusta El Grafico
    Ted Lerner The Ring (??)
    Marc Lichtenfeld Through The Ropes
    Jessi Losado Telemundo
    Scott Mallon thesweetscience.com
    Rich Marotta FSN-TV/KLAC
    David Mayo Grand Rapids Press
    Barry McGuigan ITV
    Marty Mulcahey maxboxing.com
    Bernard Osuna Telefutura
    Vittorio Parisi nonsoloboxe.it
    Cliff Rold ***********.com
    Rick Scharmberg fightnews.com
    Don Steinberg The Philidelphia Enquirer
    Joe Tessitore ESPN
    Paul Upham FIST/FSN-TV
    Calvin Watkins Dallas Morning News
    John Whistler San Antonio Express News
    Phil Woolever Boxing Digest
    Kurt Wolfheimer fightnews.com
     
  11. Guy

    Guy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cheers for that Roly.As you say they're mainly US and theres a few Britsh in there.
     
  12. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I secretly decide it in my underground lair. Somewhere in the Nevada desert.
    If you have a boxer you would like to see ranked or ranked higher send cash to my secret underground lair. I would give you the address but than it would no longer be a secret.
    You realize these lists no matter how many experts make them are all opinion and nothing more.
     
  13. BadJuju83

    BadJuju83 Bolivian Full Member

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    Depends.

    If it's your opinion, then it doesnt matter, it's a subjective subject.

    If you are having a go at someone then you have to go with the consensus, which is Ring.

    If you think that the ESPN ten is the best, get ready, and you cant complain, for lots of ****ed up results from Boxrec.


    On here if you are talking about the P4P Top Ten, you are talking about the Ring. Dont like it, tough. otherwise i could list 10 fighters that i have as Top 10, that you wouldnt have heard of. So who says when they have beaten a Top 10 fella.

    Doesnt matter if you agree or not, the Ring is the 10 to work from.
     
  14. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Anybody can make their own P4P LISTs . . . but what count most and universally recognized is the Ring P4P list because it is the ORIGINAL P4P listing.
     
  15. D_XZ

    D_XZ Member Full Member

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    The boxers themselves give the ring p4p credibility by their regard for the ring belts