Who deconstructed the puncher in a more impressive fashion: Larry Holmes or Jerry Quarry.

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  1. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "He's beautiful," Arcel screamed. "He's just beautiful."
    Indeed, he was. Larry Holmes versus Earnie Shavers I. 119-109, 120-108, 120,108. A boxing master class.

    On the other hand you have Jerry Quarry against Ron Lyle, an arguably more dangerous if inexperienced at the time opponent hailed as a knockout sensation. 7-4,10-2, 9-1. Once again after upsetting Mac Foster, the Bellflower Bomber reminded the world he does not like playing an underdog.

    Which one was better?
     
  2. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holmes was more artful, an extraordinary performance...one that might be the most artistic in heavyweight history (yes, I know there's heavy competition from 60s Ali).

    Quarry caught Shavers with a great shot and brutalized him.

    So it depends: if you like brutal knockouts, Quarry. Matador adroitness: Holmes.
     
  3. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I had Jerry Quarry vs Ron Lyle in mind.
     
  4. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Quarry did better against punchers with fair boxing ability whereas Holmes was better at taking apart plain old fence-swinging brawlers.
     
  5. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    One was a master at controlling distance with the jab and nullifying offense and the other was a great counter puncher that mostly caught guys on the inside with short punches while his opponents were extended. Holmes was the better overall fighter in my opinion by quite a bit although I love me some Jerry Quarry.
     
  6. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What about the two specific bouts (Holmes-Shavers and Quarry-Lyle)?
     
  7. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What of them? They are right in line with my statement I believe. Lyle was certainly a better boxer than Shavers.
     
  8. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    You know, I originally made a thread about Foreman facing Quarry as a long shot, but considering that Quarry beat Lyle, Shavers, and Mac Foster...is George's power and aggression really going to be an out of context problem?

    This thread prompted me to ponder a bit on that, although I know it doesn't exactly answer the question.
     
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  9. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I consider George to be capable of a much more educated pressure that Ron or Earnie. He was also better at fighting short fighters and had that jab of his.

    Still, not a fight I'd recommend to a rising Foreman and not one Dick Sadler would be willing to take.
     
  10. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    *cracks fingers*

    70s Foreman is the most overrated fighter of all time....

    I will die on that hill, also howdy I have done returned from the wilderness.
     
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  11. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Welcome back.

    A thread about Foreman's failings would be a nice way for you to kick of your triumphal return and stir a bit of healthy controversy, come to think of it.
     
  12. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    Oh yes indeed. aha
     
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  13. ronnyrains

    ronnyrains Active Member Full Member

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    Jerry eats up those guys with his experience , punch and just dogged determination Mathis 29-1 (20 KO) Foster 24-0 (24 KO) Lyle 19-0 (17 KO). and Shavers 46-2 (45 KO) AND 34 KO'S IN A ROW.

    Jerry barely lost a round.
     
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  14. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Shame he didn't come around in the 90s. He would've liked a division almost entirely consisting of punchers.
     
  15. ronnyrains

    ronnyrains Active Member Full Member

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    Yea their was an alternate reason Big George did not fight Jerry for the money both camps would have made alone.
    Jerry won two title eliminators, and your supposed to get a "Title Shot" Yet he fights Joe Frazier and the rest is History
    I could have told Gil Clancy and Howie Albert Joe Frazier was no longer the Champion, and Quarry needed a fight with Frazier like an Eskimo needs Ice!

    Jerry just did not match up well with Ali and Frazier (-HOW MANY DID?) And Irish Jerry Quarry was hell for everybody else.
     
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