Who deserves the most credit for their win over Roy Jones?

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  1. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who deserver's the most credit for their win over Roy Jones?
     
  2. Marnoff

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  3. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Tarver, easily.

    Mentally, Jones has never been the same since the Tarver KO.
     
  4. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yep. I don't think there is any question to this at all. Has to be Tarver.
     
  5. COLD-HARD-TRUTH

    COLD-HARD-TRUTH Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'll take **** for this but Montell Griffen deserves the most credit for his victory, even though it came via disqualification. He fought a prime RJJ in his 20's and gave Roy fits in that fight prior to being stopped after taking the knee. He gave Roy more problems than anybody else Roy fought while he was in his prime. Anyone post Ruiz was fighting a faded RJJ, but Tarver certainly deserves the most credit between the 3 guys mentioned in this thread.
     
  6. GazOC

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    Johnson, plodder KO's ATG.
     
  7. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was tempted to go Glengoffe, but had to go Tarver.
     
  8. bmf95b

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    Tarver put his ass to sleep without a bottle and way before his bedtime.
     
  9. adub215

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    glencoffe calzaghe deserves no credit he was fighting a punching bag and that was roys gameplan he told the ref before the fight
     
  10. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tough to call. Tarver was the first person ever to beat him decisively, and he did it while Roy was still the world's top P4P fighter, and he did it in only two rounds with the first landed punch of the fight. Plus, he arguably ruined both Roy's chin and heart with that one punch.

    Given all that, it seems like it should be Tarver by a landslide.

    BUT, I have to give major props to Johnson too. Johnson came into that fight as an aging career journeyman, who had been through the mill and had been written off as "washed up" several times already in his career. What makes that fight so impressive to me is that not only did he beat Roy, but he completely outclassed him from start to finish, in a way that no one else has. He shut Roy down the same way Roy used to shut down his challengers. He outboxed him from the outside and he outskilled him on the inside. He shut down Roy the same way Roy has so often shut down his opponents. Conversely, it took Tarver two fights (and one loss) before he solved Jones' style. And for all the talk that the Johnson loss was somehow some kind of "fluke", Roy has never wanted any part of a rematch.

    Given that, I voted for Johnson, but I wouldn't argue with anyone who voted for Tarver as well.
     
  11. Monstar

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    well, Tarver obviously
     
  12. TheGreat

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    Who voted for Slappy?
     
  13. Sir James

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    Tarver.

    The man who broke the aura of invincibility, always deserves the most credit.

    By the time Johnson got to him, he was shot to pieces both mentally and physically from Tarver.
     
  14. Bo Bo Olson

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    Tavar, how ever Johnson would have won any way...he took away Jon'es mugging, Air Breaks...putting the pressure on him a full 3 minutes of every round. He didn't care what Jones was going to do, he was there to do to Jones what he wanted to. He was not befuddled by a feint from 15 feet away.