Who deserves to be given the title of a true warrior - Margarito or Mayweather !!!

Active? Well, at least you admit he's still here, after he decided to QUIT the forum.

Aliases are for idiots anyway... really...what's the point of hiding an anonymous online name? atsch

 

Technically Lance_Uppercut is an alias of your real name.... Pleb...

And he got banned, he didn't quit....

 

That wasn't really meant to be a compliment. Jeffrey Dahmer is sane compared to Decebal.

 

Point taken.

Decebel had his moments. Entertaining at times, infuriating egotistical at others. Unfortunately, it seems too many posters here post for their own gratification.

 

You seem like a guy that does well with colors because your such a colorful poster:yep

RED is for the areas that need sources because I didn't find much on this kinda stuff...maybe you can assist me in this area:think (Not being sarcastic or a troll...I honestly wanna have a good debate with you.)

GREEN is something that we can talk about. In what periods of this fight would you have Cotto "hurt." And maybe outclass was a bit of a hyperbole...but he OUTBOXED him no doubt. Beating Mosley (the supposed quicker fighter) to the punch numerous times. Landing more shots than Mosley. And had better head movement...

PURPLE is something you're again referring to Margarito about...but still didn't address Williams or Cotto. Which you fast forwarded to recent times, when I was talking about during the time of the Hatton fight.

YELLOW is all opinion and distorted facts. Many fighters don't get elected fighter of the year and yet have a great stake in the claim for that matter. But Floyd DID go up in weight, fought and agreed to all the stipulations that Oscar wanted and beat him at his own weight class...which is honestly the only reason he got the title in the first place as FOY. Great win, but that doesn't change the fact that other fighters that year did great as well and could've been overlooked by the glamor of the Golden Boy.

And as far as sales goes...it's Mayweather that sells the fights. NOT his opponents. And it's not because of his "talent" either. Those days of talented fighters getting mainstream spotlight are sadly gone. Floyd had built a small name for himself to the outside world because of the fact that he beat DLH, been on several talk shows, did dancing with the stars, WWE etc etc. He made a great effort to market himself OUTSIDE of the boxing world...and seeing as he's the clinical arrogant villan in most cases. A loud mouth greedy ***** who most people want to see get KTFO (not saying it'll happen...but it sells fights). I think you're HEAVILY underestimating the PR buys into those numbers...I don't think HALF of those numbers in the Mosley fight were for Mosley...****...I think Jones Jr. and Trinidad did 500k...and Trinidad is washed up and old and hasn't seen a good win since Mayorga. Now just think about what kinda numbers woulda sold if there had been a Cotto/Mayweather 24/7 series, 2 undefeated fighters, both fighting older opponents who are pretty big stable names (Oscar being the superior name of course), PR fans (Not just from Puerto Rico either), Floyd haters, Floyd fans, the die-hard boxing community, and casual followers of the sport and having it held AT MADISON SQUARE GARDEN! (PR stronghold as well as a large number of the black community that love Floyd)...Yea...I think it would've out sold better numbers...But then again...we'll never know will we :think

I just feel that you can't become lineal champ and have only ONE title defense...that's just bull****! TRUE Lineal champs make title defenses to WHOEVER earns them...regardless of how much they bring and who they beat...If you're gonna be the lineal champ, you have to take the responsibilities of the champ. But honestly...that's TRULY my only problem with the guy as far as the WW division goes...being lineal champ and not doing ****. Saying your gonna retire, when there's plenty of GREAT names he could've added...

This guy said it best for me as far as Mayweather goes in the WW division...
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Funny how you say you have this knowledge yet only contribute to recent fighters...rather than go onto engaging debates about fighters from before the 80's :think And I'm not doubting that you don't, but you havent done anything on this site to say otherwise...

You hold onto your Pac prediction very closely, yet forget to mention that you forgot about Pac OUTWEIGHING Oscar which is something NOBODY predicted...and something that obviously effected the outcome of the fight

Many PROFESSIONAL boxers have predicted Oscar to win...Many EXPERTS who have followed the sport since the 30's and 40's predicted an Oscar win...you came out with a great prediction...but a lucky one IMO...you left out the straight left that nailed Oscar all night, that played the biggest role in the fight as far as the fight itself goes...you DID mention troubling southpaws...but never mentioned that immediate straight left.

I don't really like to compare] who knows more about boxing...one's who ACTUALLY box and ones who follow the HISTORY of the sport rather closely...because both have their strong points and weaknesses...

But I'm picking Dinamita as my favorite :tong only because he's LESS of a troll But I definitely have come to respect your assesments and twist on things

 

floyd is something of a warrior for his battles with castillo in his prime, but margos way of fighting and the manner in which he wins his fights leave no doubt who is more of a true warrior between the 2. floyd is literally a wizard, a "defensive" wizard that is. he'll avoid any danger necessary, but margo's definitely more of a warrior than floyd will ever be unless he ktfo or beats margo so bad and beats him at his own game, but than again, not many can

 

If Mayweather fans wanna give their boy a title of some kind maybe they should roll with, "Highly Skilled/Ultra fast, running mother****er." Sorry, "Warrior" just doesnt' fit on this guy.

 

Well, thanks for the compliment. I don't need to post about history. I do this at times when I feel like it. It is not a priority with me. When I'm asked or see a post talking about the history of the sport, I'll respond in kind. Lucky pick huh? Fights are harder to predict when you are facing PRIME opposition. Dlh coming down to his lowest weight in years at age 35 was a no brainer. Many fighters knew the deal. Arm chair fans and critics didn't have a clue. No, I didn't leave out the big straight left. Read my post again. I'll bring the link up in a second.

I've picked many wrong fights and many fights right. It doesn't prove who has more knowledge anyway. It does help when you talk about a fighter who has fought guys in their prime as compared to guys who fought guys who were once good/great. Nobody can tell me Barrera was at his best when he fought Pac. Same goes for Morales. You are talking about guys who really didn't lose their first fight until they won like 40 fights at one point in time. Pac was ko'd twice in 3 rounds. Sure he has done good since, but when talking greatness, everything comes to fruition. Barrera and Morales faced far tougher comp than PAc on the way up and during their careers respectively. Pac is a very talented and skilled fighter. We as fans just want to see him at his best. fighting the best I only saw that three times...when he fought J.M.M in the first fight and Morales in their fist two fights. Fans need to see PAc fight a prime fighter the way the Duran's, Ali's, Robinsons, Chavez's., Hagler, Sweetpeas etc did on a consistent basis. People are saying PAc is top 25...aint dat a blip!

 

A warrior and a warriors style of fighting have two totally different ,meanings. All world class boxers are warriors. Go to your local gym, train for a month and then spar not even a pro, but a guy who has been in the gym a while. Ask the guy not to hit you hard but to hit you if you are totally open. Then afterward, picture getting hit with that guys bombs or a pfp fighters bombs for 12 rounds. You'll have a new definition of the word "warrior" when you walk out of that gym I can guarantee that lol...

Even if you sit at ringside of a fight...you can hear how hard some guys punches land to the body and head. I was at the Sam Peter-Jeremy Williams fight, and when I saw and heard Williams get hit with that awkward left hook by Peter, I thought Williams died. Williams is unconscious humming while he is out for about 3 minutes.

 

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lmao at this thread.

 

There is no way I deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Sweet Pea as far as quality of posting goes, but thank you very much for these comments, much appreciated mate. I must be honest though, I do not believe Nallege is worthy of the respect you have shown him on this thread. I genuinely believe he is no more than an abusive and rather stupid troll who contributes nothing to this site other than petty arguments, ill-informed opinions, and a rampant overuse of the term "lol". Cheers to you though amigo :good

 

I know it's going to sound like I'm kissing ass, but I agree with Dinamita, Sweet Pea is a very good poster with a good knowledge of boxing through the ages, detailed analysis when predicting fights, and doesn't let personal bias get in the way.

I'd like to think I'm on his level (or even that of Dinamita) but I'm just happy to NOT BE A TROLL like others that will remain nameless lol

 

Nallege is a fairly good poster IMO, but he's not perfect. no one is but at least he gives decent responses, unlike the one-line 'cussing' some people are known for.