Who deserves to be given the title of a true warrior - Margarito or Mayweather !!!

I had the Clottey fight 8-4 for Margarito

I had the same card for DLH vs PBF 8-4

But note the DLH PBF fight was so much closer than the Margarito vs Clottey fight, in the PBF fight it depends on what you like to see as a judge, me personally as I have stated thousands of times here the aggressor will always get the benifit on my card especially if he is champion.

UNLESS it is clear that the man in reverse is baiting the aggressor in and setting traps, Clottey did that perfectly the first few rounds but that **** changed up mid way through the fight.

PBF on the other hand seemed to be doing that but his traps were not quite effective. So if I am so wrong in how i scored both of those fights then something is up, becuase three officials did score the Clottey fight for Margarito, and one official scored the PBF DLH fight for Oscar of which the other two scored the fight for the red corner, of which DLH fought out of the red corner in that fight.

either way my score cards are on par with the officials however yours son are just on par with just about any Floyd lover. its people like you who **** this sport up, you make these insane claims that this fighter really lost and the proof is this that and the other.

But when it comes down to it, your cards are usally off by miles, the only card you have been close to anything is the DLH PBF fight, and even then if you score it wide for Floyd and I score it wide for Oscar we still have what the officials had together, however you seem to be the only ones who actually think Clottey won that fight:-( you also fail to realize you were the only ones who felt that way, none of the sports writers said Clottey was robbed the only people who seem to be dedicated to that theory is a bunch of kids who are nothing more than Margarito haters.

Again lets see what happens with Floyds retirement like I said I spoke with Roach on friday and they have no interest in fighting Mayweather so lets see if his come back is for real, its not he is only looking to fight Pacquiao becuase he is the smallest threat with the highest payout, Floyd will Never come back and fight any of the top welter weights that is a fact, and Margarito has fought them all and fell short in beating Williams, but he has beat the rest, hate all you want, but Margaritos work in the divison stamps his place as the man to beat right now, if he wasnt the man to beat you all wouldnt be using williams as a excuse.

 

I saw Bazooka's scores for the fight. His psychiatrist said Bazooka scored it 120-106 for Dlh over Emmmanuel Clottey. Joshua did not fight Dlh, he was out of town on business. All info was taken from Bazooka's daily journal:good

 

:roflpatschsmoke

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl you had DLH beating Floyd by 4 rounds. :rofl:rofl:rofl You truly are a buffoon.

Please show me what rounds you scored for Oscar.

 

you need to learn how to ****ing read you idiotatsch I really didnt think you were that stupid but damn you just ****ing proved it right there. Nallege you cant even ****ing spell Knowledge god damn your stupid.

 

1st: Close Clottey
2nd: Clottey
3rd: Clottey
4th: Clottey
5th: Margarito
6th: Margarito
7th: Margarito
8th: Close Clottey
9th: Wide Margarito
10th: Close Clottey
11: Margarito
12: Margarito

The 1st, 8th, and 10th could have been scored for Margarito or even, but Clottey seemed to land the cleaner more effective blows opposed to Margaritos outstanding workrate.

My scorecard for Clottey v Margarito.

 

Margarito won rounds 1,6,7,8,9,10,11,12

and according to your card in which you have the rounds labled as "Close" that isnt all that crazy now is it:think

And you had given Margarito the 5th round in which is a round I had given to Clottey

 

Okay since you say so, Floyd walked away from his fight with DLH with swollen eyes and fat lips and Oscar didnt look like he was hit with a single shot, so I guess according to your logic DLH beat Floyd :think

 

If it was a stupid question, why do you ask it simple jack?

Don't act like this is the first time you made a big deal about Margaritos size ******. DERRRR....

 

This MAY turn out to be the case :think But I believe Pac will bring something to the table that cant be seen on paper...fire :fire

As far as Margarito goes...Floyd wins...but he'll refuse a rematch after getting tagged pretty hard. Even with the defensive wizardness going on...taking punches to the arms and shoulders will hurt him more and more and get tagged in the last few rounds, but not enough to get him the damage he needs to get the job done.

I feel Cotto presents more of a challenge than Margarito does...but I MIGHT just have a biased preference. But again with my point about pressure and outboxing Floyd...I think Cotto can do it. Floyd will look to land his left uppercut, but im not sure he has the power to keep him at bay. This will be Cotto's biggest fight and test and I think he'll push through the pain and fight onwards pressuring and pressuring. Floyd's smaller (but not by much...he's actually taller in height and reach) so I think the idea of Cotto backing up against a smaller opponent is out the window...he never has and i dont think he will against Floyd.

But the only way Cotto wins is by KO...and that's a big mystery because Floyd's chin has NEVER been put to the test...his defense is THAT great...so if someone were to land flush...at 147...can Floyd handle it? Who really knows...but I think Cotto puts his name to the test. :bbb

So hopefully Cotto improves by large margins in his next two fights...wins...and makes Floyd fight him and give us the fight we've been waiting for the glory of the 140lb division :good

 

I disagree I think Cotto losses to Floyd he is a sucker for that uppercut and Floyd is the best at getting that shot off he sets it up perfectly and Cottos chin hasnt done well with that shot.

Margarito brings a solid chin high work rate and loads of pressure, now Floyd who loves to lay on them ropes wont be able to do that with out paying a big price, and that slip and roll style, Margarito knows how to score when someone is using that cross over defense style, not to compair Floyd with Cintron beucase Floyd is so much better in every single way, but look at that rematch Cintron had with Margarito, the style Cintron used was that cross over style and you know what works for that style? pivoting over to your right and throwing the left hook right hand over the top.

Margarito did this again and again against Cintron, with Floyd he will have more work cut out for him becuase Floyd loves to use all of the ring, but remember Cotto had the right forumla to possibly win a decision but over the ten rounds up to the stoppage in the 11th the punishment Cotto took overwelmed him it will do the same with Floyd.

Floyd is not going to be able to just pot shot Tony has made every man he faced fight his fight, and Floyd will be forced to fight, proof is in the Castillo fight, The DLH fight and even the Judah and corley fight, when Floyd gets forced to fight he makes mistakes and gets caught especially when he is on them ropes, Margarito is not the man you want in there with you when your on the ropes that is a place where he wants you to be and Floyd will be basicly doing most of the work in there to help Tony beat him simply by using them ropes.

Then there is the conditioning factor, of which Floyd is always in great shape but tell me this have we ever seen Tony not in great shape? never once do I recall Tony being tired or fading in a fight and he has fought at some furious paces in his career so to me there is nothing Floyd can do that will slow Tony down.

Basicly if this fight were to happen in order for Floyd to win it he is going to have to be willing to go through hell to get that win it will not be an easy fight for Mayweather at all, to be honest IMO it will be easier for Margarito than it will Floyd, why? its simple Margarito has been in there with bangers and boxers nothing Floyd brings is new, okay so he will move alot more, but margarito has been in there with men scared to death of him anyways what will be new there?

 

Bazooka... It's an uphill battle wit the Floyd fanboys. You can make all the thought out posts with perfect and sensible reasoning, and idiots like Nallege, Eze, and Rand will reply with a sentence or two on how Floyd is "just better". It's too much of a "us vs. them" mentality that makes them highly irrational and argumentative to the point of being stubborn. Don't ever expect a post with the quality of your in this instance from those guys. they get off trying to be being "funny" and ruling with a mob mentality on this board. Pretty pathetic and highly counter productive. Reason # 105 why I don't like to post much. But more power to ya! :thumbsup

 

No I hear ya, its just obvious that most of these posters didnt start comming here until Floyd fought DLH, since then they have fallen in love with the pretty boy, infact I think alot of them are just closet queers or they just want to be like Floyd there is something fishy about the way these cats are because when you talk boxing with them they have no clue.

When they get together and start sucking Floyds dick, in one thread it only becomes obvious they dont know anything about Boxing outside of Floyd Mayweather Jr. The only thing I am hoping for is for Floyd to get some balls and fight Tony so I can sit here and watch each and every one of these ****ers avoid the board, and beleive me when that time comes I am going to be right here.

Revenge, its like a meal.....Best served Cold.

 

No, whats crazy is you saying Oscar won 8 rounds in that fight let alone won 5. Thats some hilarious ****. :rofl

You could score the fight 8-4 to Margarito based on his workrate. but given a 1 handed Clottey was ripping his ass with uppercuts, I scored it a draw.

Now imagine Mayweather in there. Its curtains for that 1 dimensional hack.

 

Imagine Mayweather in there:think I am thinking Mayweather was too affraid to step it up with Baldimor who cant punch his way through a wet paper bag whats he going to do in there with Margarito who can take his head off with one shot?

and to be honest with you in my opinion Clottey is more durable than Mayweather Jr. thats just my opinion though nothing more. and yes I had DLH winning the fight with Mayweather as did one judge ringside another judge had Floyd winning by a single friggen point so that means what?

Come on lets say it together,,,

The fight was close, meaning someone scoring it the other way isnt exactly what you call crazy it means someone scored it based on the other criterias such as aggression and the champion being given the benifit in the close rounds and again like your boy NALLEGE stated about Margarito looking ****ed up after his fight with Clottey, well DLH didnt look like Floyd even hit him yet Floyd looked ****ed up both eyes swollen his lips fattened, I think you get the picture.

infact watch your copy of that fight, between rounds 5-10 you can hear Merchant and Steward and Lampley talk about what a great Job DLH is doing deflecting all of Floyds shots. its funny to me becuase only an idiot like you would refer to that fight as a shut out for Floyd.

The reality of it is, it was a close fight period, Floyd came out with the nod but he sure didnt clearly beat Oscar, he got the narrowist margin of a win you can possibly get in this sport.
That is far from being dominant.