Who deserves to be given the title of a true warrior - Margarito or Mayweather !!!

I hear ya, but did you know Margarito started out at 135?

 

:rofl You might aswell have said. No Mas. No Mas.

 

Again you have yet to prove anything with your cocksucker youtube clip, again get the **** out of here Grown men are talking boxing! isnt it past your bed time anways, be sure to kiss your PBF Poster before you go Ni Ni

 

Margarito!!!!!!!

 

He also started out when he was younger and had a shittier amateur background that most people...which is why i respect the man's hardwork in and out of the ring.

But the fact is he's grown into the 147 division comfortably and has stayed there because of his profound success. He tried campaigning a bit at 154 and didn't work out so great so he went back down to 147 and stayed there.

Floyd has been at 130 dominated. Moved up to 135 and dominated. Moved up to 140...and this is around the time it's get iffy and interesting as to how he starts to move around the better opponents. The time he beat Gatti at 140 Hatton just KO'd Kosta. And Cotto was making a pretty big name for himself already and went life and death with Torres. You would think a fight with Hatton would've taken place considering both were coming off HUGE wins. But nope:-( Nothin happened

What did Floyd do? Moved up to fight Sharmba Mitchell, which many felt was a bull**** fight for Floyd, but it was his debut at WW so it was a reasonable guage.

Then Zab was THE champ at 147 at the time, until ****ing it up with Baldomir. But Baldomir's broke ass couldn't pay sactioning fees so he wasn't given the title at the time. So it was vacated I believe and Baldomir fought Gatti and beat him to get it.

But all the while, Zab fought Mayweather anyway and lost. Then fights the joke of the whole situation Baldomir and wins a boring ass UD.

Finds himself in one of the biggest payday opportunities of a lifetime with Oscar and Oscar decides to play it out only if its by HIS terms...which many people like to discredit or look pass when looking at the fight. I mean Oscar has always taken on MUCH bigger and tougher opponents, but for some reason decides to find ways to take away as many advantages for Floyd as possible by making him climb yet another weight division to fight him which he did, agree to fight with gloves that werent best suited for Floyd's brittle ass hands (which im sure you saw what Floyd had to go through to ensure his hands would be okay...with that whale cum **** on his hands) which he agreed to and beat Oscar at his own game. Who else can say that? Not many...it took Mosley on roids to do it.

Well after the bull**** figth ends. He claims he's done with the sport. Fine whatever.

Then Hatton kills a dead shot Castillo in four rounds and calls mayweather a boring ass *** and all of a sudden :scaredas: Floyd is out of retirement?!:yikes :roll:
Now Hatton tried fighting on Floyd's terms, but obviously fell short. Hatton fought in the states rather than in the UK. Fought at a higher weight class than his best at 140. AND agreed to some other stipulation that i cant recall at the moment

Beats his ass and bows out againatsch WTF??!!

By this ****in' point...Cotto just outclassed Shane ****in' Mosley (an old but still dangerous...just like DLH) and Margarito just beat the **** outta Johnson.

So there's SEVERAL options here.

Cotto (obvious ****in' choice...rising star and undefeated...would've made more money than that Hatton fight IMO)

Margarito (on the rebound and definitely becoming the new face of Mexican fight fans...would've done pretty good but that Williams loss really set him back a few)

Williams who just came fresh from beating Margarito.


what does this ****er do??!! Bow out and run from the challenges ahead of him...UTTER ****IN' BULL****! bart

If he would've taken ONE of those fights...he can retire complete and finished if victorious.

 

He actually started campaigning at 147 as early as his 10th fight i think...

where as Floyd had to sort of grow overtime into the other weight divisions...much like Pac has done overtime.

 

I agree I think Cotto vs Mayweather would have been much bigger than Hatton vs Mayweather, no doubt in my mind, but there are reasons why Floyd went with Ricky Hatton instead of Cotto, the reason is Collazo showed you a way to beat Ricky Hatton, he shown that Hatton was beatable.

Cotto was on the up and up and it seemed though he looked suspect in fights, he had always found a way to come back and win in those fights, and every common opponent they shared Cotto stopped them While Floyd went the distance with them.

The loss to Williams did set Margarito back especially when Williams then turned around and was dominated by Quintana a man who was beaten to a pulp by Cotto, that kind of made Margaritos loss to williams even more of a bigger issue, but then came the Margarito Cotto fight, in which Tony fought Cotto at his own pace at his own game and turned the fight into his own fight.

I think there are real reason why Mayweather isnt taking these fights, the man knows that the top welters are just too much for him, I remember saying to myself when Floyd fought Mitchell that floyd really was maxed out at 140 and had no business fighting at 147 and had he continued to fight there sooner or later one of these younger guys would get in his ass.

Well Floyd has a long paper trail of fighting smaller guys at 147 with the exception of Baldimor and DLH but Baldimor couldnt break and egg shell with a bat, and DLH was past his prime and he still struggled with Oscar.

and knowing what we know abotu the DLH PBF fight, there is no way in my mind that Floyd is going to be able to beat Antonio Margarito who has the work rate and the chin and the will and the heart, who all around just wants the ****ing W more than Floyd does, there is no way to me that Mayweather can beat this man when he struggled to beat an older Oscar De La Hoya who doesnt have the work rate, who doesnt go to the body like Margarito who doesnt have the same chin or will.

To me the order is stacked to ****ing high for Floyd, which is exactly why he is thinking Manny Pacquiao rather than being the ****ing man at welter weight.

 

Void was afraid to fight Cotto, same with Margarito.

 

I hear ya...I think it's a confidence issue. He won't take a fight he feels he's at least 80% sure he'll win. I also believe he didn't expect Oscar to do as good as he did.

I still think Manny has a better shot at beating him than Margo. But both are equal toss ups. Floyd is undefeated...so it's hard to come up with a gameplan for a defensive wizard who's undefeated. I also think if he squeaks by Margo, he's afraid a weakness or achilles tendon will be exposed in that fight...

But who knows...it's all speculation. **** Floyd. The man is retired for all I care. Boxing will move on without him. We have a new king now :deal :good

 

True warrior mentality = Margarito > Floyd.

Skills as a fighter = Floyd > Margarito.

My opinion = Boxing is better with both.