Who Did A Better Job Against Dmitry Bivol? Craig Richards Or Canelo Alvarez?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by CST80, Jun 16, 2022.


Well? Answer the frigging question.

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  1. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bivol himself said that Richards was one of the most uncomfortable fights of his career.

    Canelo fight was one of the easiest in terms of pressure and Bivol said that he was ready to go another 5 rounds, he was very calm and had a lot of energy still left.


    Maybe it's a motivation thing, but there is no way Face of boxing would not give more problems to any of the fighters right now
     
    senpai, Jun 16, 2022
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  2. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why would anybody be scoring angry? That just doesn't make reasonable sense again you project that everyone is as invested and deluded as yourself but that just isn't the case.
    Again a fallacy premise with him being P4P. why would or should that change how a fight is scored?
    I mean you are in the opposite direction trying to give him rounds he doesn't deserve. your lack of self awareness is rather telling.
    Has it occurred to you that people are just scoring the fight without bias?
    The only clear bias and blinkered viewpoint is your own.
    It's a pity you don't practice what you preach...
     
    exocet76, Jun 16, 2022
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Spider Richards. But to be fair, Bivol, as he always does, schooled them both and neither of them fought the best version of him. He was coming off 19 months of inactivity going into the fight against Richards and it was his first time fighting on a stage anywhere near that magnitude when he fought Clenelo and he never really got out of second gear all night. We saw flashes of it when he started letting the combinations fly from like round five onward IIRC and when he did so it was man vs boy. But he clearly fought within himself and never put his foot on the gas and gave Clenelo a taste of that real Eurasian heat.
     
    Serge, Jun 16, 2022
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  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    As I said to shadow about Canelo, are you simply incapable of not making everything about Beterbiev? What the **** does this have to do with Artur?

    Can Bivol beat Beterbiev or could he have beaten The Nail? Who knows, who cares. That's irrelevant to the question I was asking. Personally I think he'd have struggled with Gvozdyk due to his jab, timing and accuracy than he would Beterbiev. But Beterbiev is certainly capable of walking through everything Bivol threw and beating him down. But neither fight's outcome is a foregone conclusion.

    Let's see how he performs against a real LHW performer? Well what the **** is Joe Smith Jr.? Jean Pascal? Sullivan Barrera? Isaac Chilemba? And Craig Richards, who just got robbed against wunderkind Buatsi?
     
    CST80, Jun 16, 2022
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  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought Buatsi won it but it was close, not a robbery
     
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  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because they don't like Canelo, root against him and never give him credit for anything. If you go into a match rooting hard for a fighter to lose like Canelo, then you could very easily get sucked into auto-scoring against him.

    You acting oblivious at the idea that fans score angry and carry bias into matches because they pick favorites and want to see a fighter win or lose is very naive. It happens a lot more than you would believe.
     
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  7. ShortRound

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    Richards did better but as others have pointed out Bivol was sharper in the Canelo fight. I think Bivol-Canelo proved that at LHW, Canelo is on the same level as any of Bivol's other prominent LHW victims: Chilemba, Smith, Barrera, Pascal, Richards. Throw them all in a hat, pick out two and you'll get a great fight.
     
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  8. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I understand what you are saying but you're wong.Firstly why would most people hate Canelo?
    He's been one of the top fighters in the last decade along with Joshua has been the biggest earner by some distance.
    I accept that there's probably a few GGG fans that are pretty bitter but they are a minority in terms of fanbase size.
    As I've mentioned in a few threads most on here were scoring it close to or a complete shut out.
    You can't tell me the majority on here hate Canelo because I don't believe that for one moment.
     
    exocet76, Jun 16, 2022
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