Who did better vs Frank Moran? Jack Johnson or Jess Willard?

You have the time to post on this thread but not to answer the questions I asked you.

I have repeatedly challenged you to produce:

ONE LIE I HAVE TOLD ON THIS FORUM

God Knows you've told enough of them and I've given a dozen examples this week!!!

NO ANSWER!!

You stinking, lying, coward ,may you rot in hell.

 

I take that as a no then.
I should know by now that you never accept challenges.
LAIR??? LAYING???


Mr Walter Mittyatsch

It's times like these I wish you had had the ***** to give me your flight number and arrival time, you lying ,yellow gutted, piece of ****.

 

Why dont you just answer him Mendoza? This thread was started by you pretending that Johnson/Moran was close. I posted numerous first hand accounts which illustrate quite clearly it was a one sided easy fight for Johnson even with him fighting on auto-pilot. You keep pretending to see things in films that arent there. Remember when you tried to pretend you had seen Langford-Hague? Or remember when you pretended that you had seen a longer version of Johnson-Moran than exists? Or remember when you pretended to have seen footage of Tommy Burns-Johnson that doesnt exist? Youve been caught lying numerous times. I wont even get into anything with Jeanette because as McVey pointed out he clearly has a problem with anyone who doesnt think the sun shines out Joe Jeanette's ass. He will selectively pick and choose sources, twist the facts, lie, or post long debunked stories that suit his agenda even when they are accepted as being fictional. I dont have time for garbage like that. The only reason I occasionally answer such ignorance to make sure that younger fans who might mistake you two jokers for historians realize that you arent, at best you are propagandists for your respective causes, at worst you just revisionsists, and pretty poor ones at that.

 

We both know you didn't reply, either to my pms or my public threads the first we knew you had been in the Uk was when you were safely back in the US. You might like to pm Wass and get the record straight. You will develop ***** when you learn to spell, ie never.
Still no response at all showing all those lies you maintain I've told?
Still no reply to the request for how many of the half a dozen complete rounds of the Johnson v Moran fight extant you say Moran won?
Nor will there ever be!

 

Klompton2...your such a Hypocrite...if anyone who thinks the sun shines out of his ass...it's you...with your jealous hatred...and just because you didn't have the source...doesn't mean it doesn't exist...personally I don't own Joe Jennette and you don't own Harry Greb...your a know it all...bull**** artist...all I did was add newpaper articles from the past...what's wrong with that...especially when the articles have been written or quoted by the fighter...all you did with your research was add what newspapers writers added in their papers from the past...your not gifted your just mister copy and paste...and yes a HATE MONGER...and a RACIST.

 

Im not worried about what some small little man with a Joe Jeanette complex thinks. My work speaks for itself, as does yours.

 

yeah it does...

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You called me a liar twice ,though I never accused you of being one ,you also called me a hate-monger twice though I was initially very polite to you .
When you realised I wasn't going to play ball with the fairy tales you immediately became abusive.
Now you're on Klompton's case ,how on earth is he a hate-monger and a racist? Just because he doesn't accept some of the wild claims you put forward on your heroes behalf?
I have no ill will towards you but you have an emotional problem that needs addressing.
Are you familiar with the song " Young At Heart", with apologies to Frank Sinatra I'll paraphrase it
"Fairy tales can come true ,it can happen to you, if your gullible too".
Johnson was friends with Langford ?

"And that’s too bad. Jack didn’t like me and I didn’t like him, and if we’d ever fought there’d have
been a whole lot more than just boxing mixed up in it. It would have been a wild night, boys, if
we’d ever hooked up in a second real fight.

But the first time we met in Chelsea, Jack whipped me, and don’t let anybody else tell you
otherwise. I was there, and I’m the little boy that should know, who got the licking"Sam Langford.

Stop with the crusade , that horse has bolted, just accept that not everyone shares your fervent unlimited love of Joe Jeannette . You think he is superior to Johnson?

My response would be comparing common opponents Johnson did markedly better than Jeannete did :
eg Battling Jim Johnson, Jack Johnson fought him once when nearly 36 years old and having been out of the ring for a year and a half, fighting for 7 rounds with a broken arm ,Johnson held his challenger to a draw.
Jim Johnson fought Jeannette 8 times he won 3 lost 2 , 2 were draws and one a no dec. Oh and Jim Johnson floored Jeannette in one of thsoe fights.
Sandy Ferguson fought Jack Johnson 5 times he lost 4 of them and one was a no contest.
Ferguson fought Jeannette 4 times lost 4 and won 1.
I won't detail the McVey and Langford bouts, they are well known,suffice to say Johnson is generally considered to have been a better boxer than Jeannette and have a better defence, after the Ketchel bout which is extremely dubious Johnson was not floored again until 1915 when he was 37 years old in a fight he was winning up until the 21st round ,whereas Jeannette was down multiple times.
Also Johnson is considered to be a better puncher than Jeannette , so as the vast majority of boxing experts put Johnson in the top ten at least, yet none have Jeannette there ,why do you believe he beats a prime Johnson?

Another question, do you genuinely believe that Jack Johnson copied Joe Jeannette's right uppercut?
Because I can assure you Johnson was driving this punch home on his opposition before Jeannette ever entered a ring.

I'm genuinely curious to know your reasoning here.

 

I was wondering what could possibly take five pages of replies to answer a question about Frank Moran...........now I know.

 

McVey you called me all kinds of names...your a LIAR and a HATE MONGER...AND A JERK!

 

Time for your medication.:yep