Who did better vs Frank Moran? Jack Johnson or Jess Willard?

I was married at the age of 27 ,divorced at 50.
I never claimed an IQ of 139 and I only touched on the subject in response to a direct question.I think IQ's ,as they are measured are pretty meaningless actually.

I wouldnt be surprised if yours doesn't come up to the equivalent of a half wit? Which shows how misleading they can be.
I don't hate any boxer and have respect for any man who climbs through the ropes ,especially as I boxed in my own modest way. The hater on this site is yourself, especially towards Johnson and Louis.Your heroes are Jeffries and the Klits, all white men which tells us all we need to know about you.
NB my favourite boxer is Jack Dempsey, I thought he was white?

You keep calling me a liar yet fail to produce one instance of my lying, in spite of repeatedly being asked to do so.
Please show the "100 mistakes" I have made.
We have numerous examples of your own mendacity .

Recently:
"Willard won every round against Moran according to Box rec"

Lie.That isn't what they say at all.

Here's the truth
"Most papers gave Willard almost every round"

Here's another :
"I've seen the Langford Hague fight"
Lie .The fight is not in existence .

" Lewis weighed in fully clothed against Vitali Klitschko"
Lie . He weighed in wearing only boxer shorts.

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" Lewis's eyes were more swollen that Vitali's after their fight"
Lie. Here is Vitali after the fight.

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It's hard to decipher your pidgin English. Racists, Survey etc .

Was married isn't present tense. that would be "am married," was married indicates past tense ,as in formerly.

The idea of you trying to speak the Queens English is hilarious.
What surgery I had [not survey] is my own business, not that of a halfwitted, inbred , lying red-neck who cannot speak English or formulate a simple sentence.

I consider being referred to as a liberal a compliment! Certainly better than being a racist ,bigoted , red neck ****hole!

Rain Man, you mug yourself every time you open your ignorant mouth.
Go play your banjo!
atsch

 

Show me what I copy and pasted. There is a big difference between copying and pasting and quoting/citing first hand sources. Furthermore whenever Ive been questioned on the genuineness of a quote I have always provided an actual copy of newspaper it came from with its original byline. You have never once done that. Instead you just come back and say "I have hundreds of articles blah blah blah." and then eventually you disappear or run over to amazon and try to post a phony negative review of my book. Yeah, I got notified of that little turd. Something Ive never done to you regardless of how ridiculous I think your pet project is. Sound familiar:

5.0 out of 5 stars His Memory Is Not Forgotten...Written Like A Champion...A BLOCKBUSTER KNOCKOUT!, August 29, 2013
By Greg Spesh - See all my reviews
This review is from: Joe Jennette: Boxing's Ironman (Hardcover)
NO BIAS HERE...THE ARTICLE SOURCES ALONE GIVE THIS BOOK 5 *STARS*...RESEARCH IS UNSURPASSED...JOE JENNETTE WAS JACK JOHNSON'S EQUAL...AND FOUGHT SAM LANGFORD 14 TIMES!...ALSO, FOUGHT SAM MACVEY IN THE GREATEST FIGHT IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING, 49-50 ROUNDS...FIGHT TO A FINISH...THIS BOOK IS WRITTEN LIKE A SCREENPLAY...NOT UNLIKE ANY OTHER BOXING BIO, THAT WAS TURNED INTO A DOCUMENTRY OR A MOTION PICTURE...JOE BOTTI HAS WRITTEN A MASTERPIECE...IT'S ABOUT TIME! THE 21ST CENTURY NOW KNOWS...THE TRUE STORY OF THE JACKIE ROBINSON OF BOXING...I LOVE THIS BOOK..IT NOW SITS NEXT TO CLAY MOYLE'S SAM LANGFORD...PERFECT BOOKENDS...MOVE OVER JACK JOHNSON!...THE HOBOKEN IRON MAN IS IN THE HOUSE.

Lol. You start that with "no bias here" and yet I have never met any person, even a relative, more biased toward a single fighter in my entire life. Nevermind that you since bragged to us numerous times that you helped with the research for this book and in your second "sentence" claim the research alone makes it worth the price and that it is unsurpased. But your unbiased. Then you parrot the same asinine claims you always do. "the equal of Jack Johnson" ? How is a guy someones equal when the best he could do in a half dozen fights was win an inconclusive DQ and one draw? You brag about him fighting Langford 14 times but ignore that he only won two of those. Whatever man, you have an agenda and obviously have mental issues to go along with it so arguing with a crazy person would only lower me to that level.

 

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YOU ****ING LIAR! I NEVER SENT A REVIEW AT AMAZON ON YOUR BOOK!... YOU JUST SLANDERED ME! I'M GOING TO KNOCK YOUR ****ING TEETH IN! YOU HATE MONGER! YOU WANT SLANDER ASK YOUR WIFE WHO TOOK OFF WITH YOUR SON...TO GET AWAY FROM YOUR JEALOUS FILLED MIND...YOUR A COWARD...AND YOUR GOING TO GET YOURS...LIKE HARRY GREB!

 

You've crossed the line here. You have mental health issues that need to be addressed before you get any older. A man's family have no business being mentioned by strangers on this forum.

 

It doesnt matter. He doesnt know what hes talking about. Hes welcome to come try to knock my teeth out, he wont be the first keyboard warrior to make that threat or the last. If he actually tried Id pull that ****ing brain tumor of his out through his nose and everyone would thank me for it when Im done because then he could crawl out of Joe Jeanette's ass.

 

Still waiting for you to tell us which rounds you gave to Moran out of the half a dozen that are complete and still in existence?
Still waiting for you to post just ONE of the lies you accuse me of posting .

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And again, if you think you can judge how close a fight was by viewing less than 1/3 of it then you sir are more moronic than biased, agenda driven posts would hint at.

 

Are you incapable of answering two simple questions?
I've repeatedly asked them.


My IQ was measured at 135 you claim I said 139, another lie on your part ,you originally claimed 135 is"near genius level" ,it isn't ,my memory is fine.
What the **** my IQ has to do with this thread is beyond me, but I've humoured you.
Let's concentrate on the subject of the thread ,YOUR thread.
I ask you once again and remember, this is how you stipulated this thread should be.
Your words , and spelling mistakes below.

"This questions is for those who have seen the films first and foremost and read the round by round reports as a secondary"

So the filmed evidence is paramount then the ringside fight reports . Klompton has presented us with SEVEN ringside fight reports ALL UNANIMOUSLY SAY Johnson won comfortably .

This leaves us with NINE ROUNDS of the fight ,half of which are incomplete.
You state the fight was close, on what do you base this opinion?

After viewing the Moran v Johnson fight, of which only the following rounds are in existence . 1.5.8.10.11.13.14.19.20.
And only half of those are complete, so once again:

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WHICH ROUNDS DO YOU SCORE FOR MORAN?

If you gave him all the complete rounds that would still be only 25% of the fight,therefore how can you state the fight was close when you haven't seen the other 75% of it?
This by the way is the fight you claim to have seen FORTY+ MINUTES OF .
You posted this below on 02-07-2012, 01:07 AM


"The match was close, and Moran took the final round. A draw would have been a fair call based on the 40+ minutes I have seen"

ANOTHER LIE.






A short synopsis below
. "Though Johnson outclassed Moran, he would be unable to handle Jess Willard in Havana less than a year later."


You can make as many emoticons as you like ,the plain fact is you have repeatedly dodged my question because you have no answer to it.
Do you actually realise what an absolute clown this makes of you, what a ridiculous position you have now put yourself in and what a complete fiasco it makes of your opinion?
I wonder how you take this regular humiliation ?

 

Can I expect a reply to my question over the week end?

 

Mendoza I see you posted on here yesterday, how come you didn't reply to my question?

DUCKER!!!!

 

I was tested at in my last year at school and when I passed for Technical College. 137 & 135.are both correct, I chose to type the last one most recently[135] as that is more relevant , as I've said several times, I put no stock in them anyway.

For the record I have never claimed an IQof 139 or claimed to be particularly intelligent although ,compared to you who isn't?
A hundred is about average and, now I'm 40 odd years older than when I took my last test I've probably dropped down significantly,you seem a bit fixated on it for some reason .
I drink with a group of teachers on a Sunday lunchtime,all of them have higher IQ's than me, as has my partner ,WTF does it matter?


LAIR LAIR ? Wonder what your IQ is ,50 maybe?:think
How can you get the spelling of a four letter word wrong.:huh
Let's get back to BOXING.
Now once again would you like to answer the question which rounds do you give Moran out of the half a dozen complete ones available? Or ,will you ignore it yet again?
The rounds that are in existence are rds 1.5.8.10.11.13.14.19.20,and only half of those are complete rounds ,so can you explain how you have seen 40+ minutes of this fight?
Also can you explain how have you managed to form such a definite an opinion of the fight from the rounds extant ,only 5 of which are complete ,that is a quarter,[ or 25% if you prefer,] of the whole contest.

Can you further explain how you came to see the Hague v Langford fight which does not exist?
I won't call you a LAIR, but I will absolutely call you a LIAR! Because that is precisely what you are. A mendacious , compulsive LIAR.

In the history of character assassinations your botched attempt here will go down as a dismal failure.

 

You simply can't argue with a cretin.
You cant even read .I've never said my IQ was 139 and in my last post I stated my last IQ test was some 40 odd years ago at Technical College.

"now I'm 40 odd years older than when I took my last test ". Can't you get some one to explain things for you?
NAME ONE OTHER POSTER WHO CLAIMS TO HAVE SEEN THE LANGFORD v HAGUE FIGHT?
STILL NO REPLY TO MY QUESTION
DUCKER!!!!!