Who did Ike Ibeabuchi knockout?

Did you even bother to address any of my below? Oh by the way it appears there was demand for Lewis vs Byrd. I made a poll just for you on who Lewis could have fought late in his career.

You said, " Lewis squashing Byrd would have added little if anything, to his legacy " - Machine Man. That's just wrong. If you want to debate that point, start a tread, You won't look very good.

To clarify what I told you was sarcasm, first I must ask do you even understand how logic works?

Quick crash course. If A is greater than B, and B is Greater than C, A is greater than C.

I was pointing out, that Byrd, who had a good chin was stopped by Ike before all others. Can you not understand what using Byrd as a benchmark part of the quote meant? I think not. So you grab on a target tractor than address the point. You're an expert at this. That's your style. Facts and time lines mean little to you.

Also I have been a big believer in Ike on this board for years. Check the archives and do a search, that is if you know how. Once again you " think " you know, but you really don't.

As for Lewis he was actually trying to make fights with Johnson and Jones post Vitali. Is that hard to understand? He was not acting like a retired fighter. He ran his mouth about a re-match with Vitali. 18 million was up, and when he had no other choice than to fight him or lose his lone belt via WBC re-match terms ( Lewis dropped a belt to you know who ) he retired. That's how it went down.

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1 ) You cannot list your top 15 head to head. You are scared to do this. I was going to have some real fun with you. Wise move, but cowardly. Also how is a list of your top 15 puncher relevant, but a list of your top 15 head to head not relevant? Do you even realize how silly this looks?

2 ) No where did I say a list of your top punchers. That's your goal post moving and changing words. We both know that.

3 ) I never called Ike an all time top puncher. I said he was a puncher and if Tyson or Lewis was a 10, he's a 9. Wasn't that good enough?

Two good wins....how many does Fury have? Or Joshua for that matter? Old men don't really count by the way, unless you think 39-40 is a guys prime.

We get it, keep changing words, ducking questions, and moving goal posts. You can not engage directly in the very thread you started in. Now you're down to name calling. Bravo.

 

There was nothing worth addressing. Just you wetting your pants, again. Your problem.

I've addressed your laughable gloat in the relevant post.

It's a matter of opinion. I'm happy with mine. You seem hellbent on trying to convince everyone you're right. Who's more content, do you think?

Also - as I have already mentioned and you can't bring yourself to acknowledge... ...ultimately, Vitali was the best fight Lewis could have taken, the result of which has added significantly to Lewis' legacy - so much so that the idea of Byrd making a difference pales into total insignificance.

The above indicates you are suffering mentally in some way. Is it due to stress, I wonder??

Never have I seen an alleged, sarcastic comment elicit the need for so much justification (including a Nursery School lesson in logic [apparently] and some other garbled nonsense that I cannot make out)

Seriously, now! What are you talking about??

You have made the claim about Lewis actually "trying to make fights with Johnson and Jones" after Vitali, on several occasions over the last few years, and I have asked you to provide evidence of this in the past.

You NEVER have. So, please do.

Yep. Lewis retired. That's how it went down. (See? We agreed on something)

I already responded to that drivel. See also, above^.

 

Your top 15 head to head, for the 5th time, please. Yes, you were shifting goal posts. Now you are ducking requests. I do not hate Lewis, he's in my top 5 of all time, however he did duck out of the re-match, and quite clearly dropped belts to avoid Chirs Byrd and John Ruiz, didn't he?

 

Top-5? So, where in your all time ratings would wins over Ruiz and Byrd have elevated him to then?

 

I know who knocked out Ike Ibeabuchi (or at least claimed to). Hasim Rahman said he stopped Ike with a right hand in sparring. What does this mean? Nothing. It was sparring. In a real fight a focused Ike may have turned the trick on Rahman. So hard to forecast fighter's potential, especially heavyweights. What it does tell me is that Ike could be stopped and in that great era of heavyweights someone could've eventually turned the trick on Ike. My guess it would be at the highest tier of heavyweights (Lewis, Klitschko's) and not the next level (Ruiz, Maskaev, Mercer). I could see Ike only having a shorter title reign and then be a real tough gatekeeper of sorts, but I have to think he would've picked up one of the belts eventually. Ike was only 6'2 and may not have had the giant proportions to reign long like the Lewis' and Klitschko's. The question should be did Ike ever demonstrate his power against a true modern day sized heavyweight like a Lewis, Bowe, Wladdy or Vitali? That was never really answered unfortunately.

 

Given that Kirk Johnson and Rahman both have favorable gym stories about sparring Ike, and Rahman had similar but more boring success against Tua--I am aware of all three fights, no need to rehash--I tend to think he was more on that tier than belonging with Lewis and the Kbros.

Also notable is that every major champion in the last 20 years at heavy (Lewis, Kbros, Wilder, Johsua and Fury) had notable amature success. Even Wilder took a medal without really knowing how to box. Ike is more of a question mark there.

Ike isn't the only Nigerian who looked the part. They had Dokiwari Peter, Friday, Izon and now Ajaba. It never seems to totally pan out for them.

 

That's enough about Perry/Houdini. This thread's about Ike Ibeabuchi!

 

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He does not look a one punch knock out puncher at all

 

We get it. I'll answer you questions, you skip mine because you're afraid to answer them. No worries, I won't ask for a 6th time. I was entertained by the massive goal post moving, and language distortions though.

 

Ike Ibeabuchi - Devastating Can Crusher!