Who did Mayweather legitimately duck from 2000-now(sans Pacquiao)

Mayweather specifically moved up to WW to fight Oscar De La Hoya and Shane Mosley. Why don't you mention how Mosley had a tooth ache in 06 or chose to rematch Vargas rather then go after Mayweather? Cotto and Margo both turned down fights with Mayweather. Clottey and Williams did very little to earn a fight with Mayweather. Pacquiao's team is scared as hell of Mayweather.

 

There is no record of Arum contacting Mayweather or GBP for any fight with Cotto or Margarito after Mayweather left TR. All he did was go to the media and talk **** after Mayweather left him. What serious moves and efforts did Arum do in order to make a Cotto or Margo fight which Mayweather ran away from after Mayweather left TR?

 

I hear you-I just think Floyd coulda reached out to Arum for the Cotto fight-

I mean I understand what your saying-I agree in that Cotto kinda ducked Floyd (or avoided him is the better term) at 140..thats a different argument though-

IMO Floyd coulda got at Cotto for the Dec 2007 date instead of Ricky...Though there was bitterness-They coulda at least went to the negotiating table.:thumbsupTeam Mayweather didn't even do that.

 

A solid case could be made for Margarito

 

I don't know about the 2000's to now, but He ducked Willie Pep in the 1940s

 

I don't think its as easy as you claim. The Mosley fight was easier to negotiate for GBP and TR because they both were able to benefit. Mosley had nothing to lose and was viewed as shot so it was a good opportunity for him at that time. While for TR it was a big name who was going down hill and wouldn't demand a lot of money.

Mayweather on the other hand is a different ball game. Your talking about a lot of money that could possibly be generated. What was Arum's guarantee for Cotto? What would Cotto's split been? If Cotto were to get his ass kicked and ruin his star appeal would the money he have generated fo r the fight be worth it.

 

Is that realistic though?

PBF was coming off the highest grossing fight in history (ODLH), a fight (and income) that Arum OPENLY REFUSED to help him make when he was his promoter. Arum was also in the midst of a public relations campaign trashing Mayweather every chance he got (claiming he 'ducked' Margo, was really a coward, etc.).

It's hard for me to believe that Mayweather then turns around with all his newfound marketability and gives a fight (one that would be sold primarily on his name) to a Top Rank pushed fighter under those circumstances, especially one (Cotto) who's biggest win to that point was probably a Mayweather leftover (Judah - see the TR pattern here?).

And I still think it's debatable if Arum ever puts Cotto in the ring with Cotto, as he was STILL angling Cotto to get ODLH before a PBF/DLH rematch could happen.

 

First off you can only duck fighters who are a threat or it isnt a duck.

Cotto. Massive fight. Shame it didnt happen.
Margarito. Hes has beaten who? Cheat and his accolades are irrelevant now.

The one fight I really think he should have made is with Tsyzu at 140. He would have been the dominant number one. Damn shame.

 

I guess my argument is summed up best by "my view is that it's arguable that he ducked Cotto"...:good..I see your points as well..I just think the best argment can be made for a 2007 Cotto-

TO THOSE WHO SAY MARGARITO THEY DON'T KNOW-TONY WAS NOT KNOWN IN 2006-

ALSO-TONY DID NOT CONTINUE TO WIN IN GOOD FASHION AFTER CONFRONTING FLOYD ETC..-HE LOOKED HORRIBLE AGAINST J.CLOTTEY AND GOT BEAT BY A GREEN PAUL WILLIAMS WHEN HE HAD LOADED WRAPS:deal

 

I hear you bro..see my other post:thumbsup

 

Of course Baldomir was the legitimate champion, so therefore you are the joke.

 

Between 135 and 140, the only fights we really missed out on are Tsyzu and Casamayor, neither of which I would say were ducks; just missed opportunities.

At 147, probably just Cotto. Margarito, P Will, Clottey never earned their shots at Floyd.

 

IMO 2009 Mosley when he choose to fight Marquez over him is the most legit claim out there. All the other claims have a snag to them, 2009 Mosley had the best combination of being easy to create and big name appeal over all the other claims. But we will agree to disagree.

 

Pac, Margarito, Cotto, Mosley, Tsyzu, Paul Williams and prime Oscar De La Hoya.

 

1. Called Shane out years before and bested Shane when he was the top WW in the division. Mosley was P4P #3 at the time.
2. Top Rank
3. Top Rank
4. Really? And Top Rank
5. Had he not lost to Quintana, I'd give you that one. In reality no one wanted to fight Paul at that time.
6. You must not be paying attention