Who did Pacquaio pass ATG beating Hatton

U crazy!!!LOL Pacman is def a great,no doubt about it,and this is coming from a fan who doesnt even like Pacquiao,but still as a true fan i give props when its due,But come on hes not greater then Felix trinidad or Oscar Delahoya,they both have a much greater legacy then Pacman

 

jones, chavez, arguello, hopkins, lewis....being a 6 division champion is such a big accomplishment... dela hoya had significant loses on his way to being a 6 time champion

 

He passed all those PPL and he passed Tito and DLH, hes way past DLH. I really cant say Pacquiao passed Mayweather, but when they fight it will settle it

 

Made his status as an ATG undeniable. (Fact)
**** a # rank tho... (Opinion)

 

What Pac has done in the last three fights is amazing when you consider the weights jumped (135to147backto140) but it's not as impressive in the ATG scheme of things when you consider his last 3 opponents.

Consistancy is the key here. If he continues to look as he has since the JMM/PAC controversy then he definitely belongs ahead of those guys, but at this point it's still wait-and-see for me!

 

I agree with Gonza, as spectacular as he look against Hatton, the fight raised more questions about how good Hatton really was; and the consensus was that maybe he (Hatton) wasn't as good as we origionally thought.

 

Since the fab four, the only fighters who have a solid argument above Pac are Whitaker, Chavez, RJJ, Holyfield, and maybe Lennox Lewis. Everyone else is clearly behind.

 

This :hi:.

 

This guy has beaten more HOF fighters than any current active fighter, yet after every win people look to descredit his opponent rather than credit hi. And it only ever happens "after" the fight.

 

well, IMO... the only ones you can really discount are Oscar (far from a live opponent) & Marquez-2 :nut.


Hatton... he whooped Hatton's ass no doubt. Hatton got discredited by boxing fans way more than Pacquiao got praised in terms of elevation of his status.

Hatton didn't follow the gameplan. It's fact.
I said it many a time, that even if Hatton did all the things he was meant to then we're in for WAR & it could either way (though if you're betting, of course you bet on the bigger, faster puncher with the better chin!).

I think fight night.. my words were "give me 6 rounds" (Rick didn't give me more than 2.. but I was still proud of him. The way he got up after that 2nd knockdown especially.... no way you can follow a gameplan after a knockdown like that.... unless you've got Marquez's genes, God-given gift & straight-up BALLS!!!!).

The flat-footed brawler with no head movement or establishment of the jab.. was always going to get blown away! (and when you think of the only other fighters who could blow Hatton away like that @ 140, from the past, he's in good company... JCC, SRL, Pernell Whitaker (though this would probably be more of a systematic picking apart AND then a TKO!), Oscar...!

I don't see what Pacquiao fans are worried about. I mean Pacquiao-only fans have said for years that he will beat Floyd (even when Roach's Project: Pacman wasn't half-finished!) ... so what have you got to worry about? Shouldn't he go undefeated for the rest of his career until he ages overnight and gets 'past it' becoming a SHOT fighter??

 

He has been an ATG when he beats Barerra, Morales, and Marquez. His lagacy defining fight was when he signed to fight Dela Hoya. That was a fight that almost no one game him any chance. Heck I thought his career was over when he signed to fight Hoya. Hatton helped pushed him even further.

 

Not true. There's an aspect of cherrypicking to Pac's last three fights(check with Roach if you disagree) that should prevent any real boxing fan from jumping the gun just yet.

About a year ago Pac was struggling to get a decision over JMM at 130
and now he is looking invincible against bigger guys. Is Pac really that great or is it due to Roach's creative opponent selection.:think

I'm a Pac fan and I know this will sound like Pac-hating but I'm just trying to be objective!

 

18/20 experts picked DLH over Pac. Thats not called cherrypicking, regardless of the outcome. Hatton was the undisputed JWW champ.

Ive always said JMM is a stylistic nightmare against Pac. Pac also destroyed MAB btw...destroying of top fighters is nothing new, he's been doing it for a long time.

 

In 2002, Ring Magazine published a list of the 80 Best Fighters of the Last 80 Years in boxing, as voted by the magazine's writers.

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Joe Louis
5. Roberto Duran
6. Willie Pep
7. Harry Greb
8. Benny Leonard
9. Sugar Ray Leonard
10. Pernell Whitaker
11. Carlos Monzon
12. Rocky Marciano
13. Ezzard Charles
14. Archie Moore
15. Sandy Saddler
16. Jack Dempsey
17. Marvin Hagler
18. Julio Cesar Chavez
19. Eder Jofre
20. Alexis Arguello
21. Barney Ross
22. Evander Holyfield
23. Ike Williams
24. Salvador Sanchez
25. George Foreman
26. Kid Gavilan
27. Larry Holmes
28. Mickey Walker
29. Ruben Olivares
30. Gene Tunney
31. Dick Tiger
32. Fighting Harada
33. Emile Griffith
34. Tony Canzoneri
35. Aaron Pryor
36. Pascual Perez
37. Miguel Canto
38. Manuel Ortiz
39. Charley Burley
40. Carmen Basilio
41. Michael Spinks
42. Joe Frazier
43. Khaosai Galaxy
44. Roy Jones, Jr.
45. Tiger Flowers
46. Panama Al Brown
47. Kid Chocolate
48. Joe Brown
49. Tommy Loughran
50. Bernard Hopkins
51. Felix Trinidad
52. Jake LaMotta
53. Lennox Lewis
54. Wilfredo Gomez
55. Bob Foster
56. Jose Napoles
57. Billy Conn
58. Jimmy McLarnin
59. Francisco Guilledo
60. Carlos Ortiz
61. Bob Montgomery
62. Freddie Miller
63. Benny Lynch
64. Beau Jack
65. Azumah Nelson
66. Eusebio Pedroza
67. Thomas Hearns
68. Wilfred Benitez
69. Antonio Cervantes
70. Ricardo Lopez
71. Sonny Liston
72. Mike Tyson
73. Vicente Saldivar
74. Gene Fullmer
75. Oscar De La Hoya
76. Carlos Zarate
77. Marcel Cerdan
78. Flash Elorde
79. Mike McCallum
80. Harold Johnson