Who did Roy Jones avoid during his career?

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  1. Tom_Tocca

    Tom_Tocca The Provider Full Member

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    If I remember correctly, Jones was offered about $5 million to fight DM in Germany but said he wanted this fight on American soil.
    I would have said ok Roy, if so, then cash out DM with the same amount of money that was offered to you - but no, he didn't...says alot about guts...
     
  2. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I didn't start to follow boxing closely until about 2000. That's why i don't know much about boxing pre-2000. That's why i didn't recall the German guy's name.

    But, was this guy really that good in that had Jones fought him and beat him decisively that it would've boosted Jones' legacy a good deal?
     
  3. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Actually, HBO offered DM more money than he ever made to come here as well. DM said no.

    Jones contract with HBO was 5 milliion a fight. So all he did was turn down going to Germany....and Jones always said he wouldn't fight anywhere else since the 88 olympics.
     
  4. PowerPuncher

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    Lets see:

    Dariusz Michalczewski - neither could agree, both as guilty of avoiding the other, should have happened, US-Euro politics stopped it - let it end at that.

    Vasily Jirov - not the same division

    Nigel Benn - RJJ wouldnt make the fight, Benn wanted the fight for the money and said he doesn't know why RJJ wouldnt fight him because he thought RJJ would win and he just wanted the payday.

    McCellan - was due to happen if he beat Benn

    Chris Eubank - Eubank avoided RJJ before RJJ hit the top, RJJ wouldnt give Eubank a shot when Eubank lost

    Collins - Collins wanted silly money

    Nunn - RJJ should have fought him but didnt bother

    Hopkins2- Hopkins simply ducked RJJ knowing he'd lose again

    Calazage - Calazage didnt earn a shot

    Otke - never talked about, had allot of gifts

    The HWs - not really fair RJJ was tiny at HW
     
  5. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I definitely agree that his experience at the Olympics had him incredibly wary of going to foreign countries to fight.
     
  6. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All I know on Benn is that Jones said publicly and it was confirmed by HBO that Benn turned down 4 million to fight Jones. I don't know what Benn countered. But he had never made 4 million.

    Nunn he just ducked. Plain and simple.
     
  7. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    DM is the only legitmate fighter you could say that he ducked.

    But DM is just as responsible.

    They simply couldnt come to an agreement and neither felt they had enough incentive to do so.
     
  8. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Ummmm. Was there an offer? If my memory serves me correctly, Toney had already beaten Nunn by the time that Jones would have been ready for that bout, and Jones left the division to ultimately seek out Toney.
     
  9. kg0208

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    Nunn was his mandatory at LHW too....thats when I am referring to.
     
  10. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So was DM that good in that had RJJ beat him decisively that his legacy would've been noticeably boosted?
     
  11. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, I think so. Jones did beat the man who beat DM. But that means little in boxing. It is funny to hear people refer to how Jones was scared of DM and fought garbage men instead....when the only garbage man he fought (part time) was an unbeaten top 10 rankedGonzales, the same man who would then beat DM.
     
  12. Guru_Too_You

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    Ahhh gotcha.

    I didnt recall that Nunn was even his mandatory at LHW, especially considering his record at LHW.

    During that time, Roy was seeking out Virgil Hill, who at the time I feel was more highly regarded.
     
  13. Tom_Tocca

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    years ago at the end of DMs career...

    btw, if staged around 98-99 if what have boosted his legacy for sure beating the linear champ - he would have been undisputed at LHW...and don't tell me he was...
     
  14. kg0208

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    I did say it would boost his legacy.

    And yes, Jones was undisputed. DM was lineal. There is a difference. The WBO wasn't considered part of unification then, and to many, it still isn't.
     
  15. Tom_Tocca

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    So holding the WBA, IBF and WBO title didn't meant that much?