Who did Tszyu beat?

Put it this way when Tszyu Hatton Cotto and Mayweather were the top guys at LW it was TSZYU who was number 1 and the guy everyone feared like it or not.

 

until he got beaten by hatton.

 

All these last few posts from poeple on here have been haters thats why i dont go into KT threads as much anymore.

Why he still gets no respect from any of these fight fans.

Some of the things that have been said is just plan rubbish.
For such an ambassator towards a sport that has turned slowly into a circus Tszyu was great for it and still he is not getting any love.

Fans think Champs are only made by what they do in the Ring by who they have taken on be it a former HOF.

But me im smarter than that a Champ and a true all time Great isnt about who he beat but how he beat them aswell as what he did for the sport aswell.
No Tszyu didnt get the best opponents but can the fans really blame Tszyu for that or the Chicken fighters that avioded him.

Tszyu changed Judah's career he not only beat the undefeated highly rated up and coming Zab he blow him away.
Cotto in his Prime took 11 rounds and a couple of shaky moments when i thought he was going to get KO'd by Zab.
PBF lost the first 4 rounds to Judah before taking over in the fight.

But because Tszyu never faced Cotto or PBF he gets the flack its Tszyu's fault according to you lot. THIS IS BULL ****.
Tszyu changed Judah's career and PBF and Cotto just got by him. Tszyu is the only man to stop Miguel Gonzalez and Zoo although never really facing another great champ what he did to the fighters he did fight was frightning.

I always have to caome to a fighters defence like Tszyu as i do when people diss Lennox Lewis or Joe Calzaghe.
Our fighters will never get respect of these people because they beleive they have superior fighters in game thats theres.
And When we sucseed at it the USA guys are there to say oh but he isnt as good Tommie Hearns or Ray Robinson or PBF.

So ****ing What there our stars our great boxers who gives two shits what you guys think not me anymore because the only fighters i see the USA producing these days are the boring ones.
Winky,PBF,Spinks,Taylor,Dawson the days of Dela Hoya and Hearns and Hagler are coming to and end and us the Internationals are slowly taking over.

 

yeah he was just so crap against Hatton wasnt he i mean for a 35 10 months year old fighting an unbeaten Champ in his hoetown at 2am in the Morning against a Prime Hatton yep a really **** effort by Tszyu.
Plus getting a number of fouls and low blows all night.atsch

And no matter what argument you make Relentless your boy Cotto wouldnt last 7 rounds with Tszyu.
His chin isnt no where good enough to face someone like Tszyu i mean he gets rocked everytime he gets in the Ring imagine what a 34 year old Tszyu would have done to him when he was at 140.
So Shut T F UP

 

Just like your boy taking all 12 rounds to win the fight.
Aswell as losing the first 4 rounds before doing anything against a already beaten Zab.
Thats what 10 rounds more than the Tszyu vs Judah fight went on.:good

 

Well my list doesnt go on just who they beat because thats fair to guys that didnt get avioded. in Tszyu's case you have to mark him on his achievements because do we blame Tszyu for not fighting Dela Hoya,Mosely,Cotto or PBF or should the blame go to someone else because i know Tszyu would fight any of them anytime any where.
So when you look at his achievements what do you get ill tell you what you get.

You get an Ambassotor for this sport in a time when the Boxing Hip Hop culture and circus acts are more than most can bear.
You get a guys that Unified a division that
Julio C Chavez couldnt
Dela Hoya couldnt
Pryor Couldnt
Cervantes Couldnt
Now there not small names.
He also holds the record for the longest title reign at 140 aswell as being unbeaten from 1997 until 2005.
Now to me that more than Pryor done alot more yet Tszyu doesnt get credit because he didnt fight a Great but thats wrong he did in Chavez and Killed him. I know Chavez was old but when you talk names no one did to Chavez as was Tszyu did to him.
No One had even stopped Gonzalez and Miguel was KO'd by Tszyu.

Yet we still give him **** because he didnt face a Mosely or someone like that. ask Sugar Shane next time you see him why he jumped the 140 division. Dont ask Tszyu.

 

Thats it im done with talking Tszyu. Never again Never again. The real fans would rather watch PBF spin **** how he's going to knock someone out and talk about there kids or families or him just talk about himself.

Tszyu the last of the real gentlemen in our sport.

Thats it done.

 

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my thoughts exactly

 

Tyszus very good, borderline great, but he is 1 of many excellent fighters, and a notch below the absolute best. I like Tyszu and was cheering for against Hatton.

Unifying a division isn't that amazing if the other 2 belt holders aren't particularly great fighters. He was only undefeated from 1997-2005 because he fought very poor fighters after Judah and he never took on an elite fighter in this period. His 1998-2001 run was excellent, 2002-2005 his competition was pretty much pitifull. During this time he should have been facing Mayweather, Cotto, Hatton, Harris, Gatti, Witter.

Tyszu never fought a great, otherwise journeyman Willie Wise is also an ATG, because he beat the same Chavez Tyszu beat

Was Tyszu avoided though or did he just never try to make the big fights? I've never heard Tyszu call out the big names so its hard to say. Lets see why the big names didn't fight Tyszu:

Delahoya - was talked about prior to Tyszu getting ko'd by Phillips, Tyszu wasn't an established name prior to Phillips KO in fairness

Mayweather - did try to get Tyszu in the ring but Tyszu fought Mitchell and Hatton instead. I wish Tyszu beat Hatton because we would have had Mayweather-Tyszu as the next fight. Hatton refused to face Mayweather until now.

Mosley - huge money against Delahoya

As a Tyszu fan I'd expect you to be aware Tyszu was pretty much looking for his last payday after Judah and all his injurys. This is why he fought poor competition and then sold himself to the highest bidder in Hatton.

Tyszu would never have been able to beat Delahoya, Mosley or Mayweather. They would have all outboxed him and if Hatton and Phillips could stop him Delahoya and Mosley would have done him late too. All had stelar chins. 1 thing I will give you though is that Tyszu may have beaten Vernon Forrest - this isn't a certainty as Vernon was much better in the Pros.

 

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Look mate we are talking about Kostya here not floyd..Why are you bringing floyd up for??

Kostya was a great fighter and will go down as one of the best in his division ever.Not a all time p4p great but still a great boxer in both the amateur and pro ranks.

No one(with brains)would suggest mayweather aint a great fighter who has faced some class opponents.He will end his career as one of the true greats of the fight game.Win against hatton will seal this.

Now nomore floyd talk as we are in a kostya thread..

 

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No One Around That Weight Could Do What Tszyu Did To Zab And Sharmba.