Who did you have winning, J L Ramirez vs Edwin Rosario

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  1. gooners!!

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    Who did you have winning, J L Ramirez vs Edwin Rosario ? i thought JLR won myself.



    Round 1 Rosario
    Landed! more punches imo.

    Round 2 Rosario
    Ramirez was getting painted with 3 right hands mid round but
    Ramirez came back and really hurt Rosario, although Rosario did not go
    down and Ramirez did'nt really follow up either, its about one of the few
    good shots JLR landed in the round.


    Round 3 Rosario
    He painted JLR with hard right hands in this round, although JLR
    did start to score cleanly towards the end.

    Round 4 Ramirez
    Rosario landed the harder shots in this round but i thought
    Ramirez took it on workrate and consistency througout the
    round

    Round 5 Rosario
    Best round of the fight, and best round of the fight for Rosario, he
    hammered JLR with hard! shots in this round


    Round 6 Rosario
    He did nothing for the first 1st minute and half, then he came
    to life and started whacking JLR with hard shots to take the round
    on my card, only reason i could not score it for JLR is because even
    though he might have thrown more he was not landing with much.

    Round 7 Ramirez
    Best round of the fight for Ramirez, his most productive in being the
    aggressor and actually landing!! he has been aggressive thoughout.

    Round 8 Ramirez
    Consistent with his attack throughout and landed short
    jolting shots throughout.

    Round 9 Ramirez
    Same as the 8th really, consistent with his attack throughout, landed short
    jolting shots throughout. Rosario has gone to sleep and took his foot
    of the gas.

    Round 10 Ramirez
    He was all over!! Rosario in this round, loads of pressure and he
    scored throughout

    Round 11 Ramirez
    pressure and consistency throughout

    Round 12 Ramirez

    clear round for Ramirez, consistent scoring throughout.


    Rosario had this fight under control untill he stopped throwing in mid rounds, he clearly took
    his foot of the gas, not doubt because of fatigue. Ramirez has been putting lots of pressure on
    throughout but he was not landing his shots consistently for the first 5/6 rounds, however towards
    the second half of the fight his accuracy seemed to improve, although you might say that was to do with
    Rosario tiring. I thought Ramirez won it and on reflection i think he deserved to win it, he forced the fight
    from start to finish and the rounds that Rosario won were rounds which he was probably the less active
    fighter but he took some of those rounds on my card because despite being more inactive he was landing
    and cleaner shots, that said i could easily see someone swaying to Ramirez in some
    of those rounds. Ramirez dominated the late rounds he won with his consistency.
     
  2. sweet_scientist

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    Been a while since I've seen it so I can't give specifics, but yeah pretty much the trend of the fight was Rosario outboxing Ramirez early and then Ramirez finishing much the stronger.

    I had Ramirez taking it by a couple of points, but some of the rounds were close and I can't really say that Jose was robbed or anything.

    Ramirez was unlucky not to get decisions against Arguello and Rosario, but he was compensated by his gift against Pea.
     
  3. Thread Stealer

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    Rosario-Ramirez 1

    Rosario: 1, 2, 4, 5, 6
    Ramirez: 3, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12
    Final: 115-113 Ramirez
     
  4. gooners!!

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    For sure, it was definitely a close fight.

    That was a gift to.:lol:

    I watched Chapo destroy Viruet before watching that, hard to believe that was the same guy that went to war with Duran.
     
  5. sweet_scientist

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    Yeah... in fairness to Viruet though, he was quite far gone by that stage. As early as the Dejesus bout he started looking like shite (Dejesus did too btw, and perhaps even earlier).
     
  6. The Wanderer

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    Being a lightweight and fighting Duran will do that to you, especially if you fight him more than once.

    I haven't seen this fight, so sorry that I can't contribute more to the topic at the moment. I may have to try to look it up in the next few days and give you my score.
     
  7. gooners!!

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    Yeah they mentioned he was considered to be on the way down on the broadcast.

    Didn't he beat Escalera? have you seen that fight, is it available, how did he beat him?
     
  8. sweet_scientist

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    True that.

    Yeah he did beat him, I haven't seen the fight and don't know if it was filmed though. His next fight against Mamby was definitely filmed, haven't seen it though.
     
  9. My2Sense

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    It's on Youtube, have another look: :good

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  10. My2Sense

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    I thought Ramirez swept the whole second half of the fight. Even if you gave Rosario every single one of the first six rounds (which is questionable IMO, as I thought at least one or two of those rounds could've gone the other way), Ramirez still shouldn't have gotten any less than a draw. Personally, I thought Ramirez should've won the fight around 7 rounds to 5, maybe 6-4-2 or 7-4-1 - something along those lines.

    In my mind, I always felt Rosario lost twice to Ramirez, which was one of the reasons I never got caught up in the hype around him following his win over Bramble.
     
  11. gooners!!

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    So i just scored Rosario vs Howard Davis but how did you guys have it, who won it for you?

    Round 1 Rosario
    He was the only one landing punches in
    the round

    Round 2 Rosario 10/8
    Quiet round for the first minute but Rosario hurt
    Davis with a an overhand right, then he went on to score a knockdown
    with a kind of half hook, half jab.

    Round 3 Davis
    Good round for Davis he nailed Rosario with the right hand
    a few times and was busier than in previous rounds

    Round 4 Rosario (close round)
    Both had the moments in this round but just liked
    Rosario's early pressure and hard punching

    Round 5 Davis
    again both had their moments but Davis landed the more eye catching
    punches, particularly a nice counter uppercut, he was tattooing Rosario
    near the ropes at one point, Rosario was too inactive in the round although
    he did score also.

    Round 6 Davis
    Rosario inactive for almost the whole round

    Round 7 Davis
    Rosario inactive again! Davis scored the jab
    early and nailed Chapo with a lovely counter right uppercut
    left hook

    Round 8 Davis
    Few punches landed but Davis dictated the action again whilst
    Rosario was inactive

    Round 9 Rosario close
    Best round for Rosario for some time, both landed in this round
    but i thought Rosario closed a bit better

    Round 10 Rosario
    Good round for Rosario he landed some hard! shots in this round

    Round 11 Davis
    Davis outworked him imo, dictated the pace, scored the jab and double
    counter hooks when he charged in

    Round 12 Rosario 10/8
    Davis was winning the round but got nailed so i had to score it 10/8, it was
    to competitive for me not to award Rosario a 10/8 round, if it was all Davis i could of
    gone an even round with the knockdown.
     
  12. My2Sense

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    I haven't scored it round by round in a while, but I thought Rosario probably pulled it out. Davis did control most of the middle rounds, but Rosario's two KDs and a couple other big rounds were very hard to overcome.
     
  13. sweet_scientist

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    Had Rosario taking it by a couple of points. But I thought Howard did a better job than what Camacho did to tell you the truth.

    Whilst we are discussing Rosario's decisions, I had Rosario's fight with Randall scored even in terms of rounds. But if I was going by the British system where you can award half points, I would have had Rosario ahead because he had a couple of the bigger rounds in the fight.
     
  14. gooners!!

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    Man that was a good fight wasn't it? that has to be an underrated classic imo.

    Randall was out on his feet a couple of times. I watched HL's of the rematch and i seem to remember him buzzing or dropping Randall in the rematch to.
     
  15. sweet_scientist

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    Yeah great little fight.

    No 24/7 needed, no hype, no bull****, just two really good fighters going at it on neutral territory in front of a small but appreciative crowd. :good