Who do you believe wilder or hearn

Team Wilder are stupid as ****.
Watch them forego big AJ and Whyte paydays and fight Breazeale instead.

 

If Wilder really wanted the fight he would have come over to make it. He had the perfect opportunity to set the stage for a final unification, and the fan pressure would have been so huge that nothing would have got in his way.

Regardless of how much of a snake you think Hearn is (and he's a pretty slimy one) I think it's pretty obvious who to believe in this scenario.

 

England's whole history in HW boxing is lies and bull****.

 

Exactly. Past precedence alone should tell you all you need to know. Joshua in around twenty fights has already beaten Wlad and Parker and has shown no unwillingness to fight top contenders like Povetkin and Pulev. Wilder on the other hand has a history of calling out big names and not fighting them or outright ducking them. He stepped up against Ortiz and deserves credit for that, but that alone shouldn't forgive years of bottom feeding.

 

When rumours abounded that Joshua was going to fight Wlad the fight materialised. When rumours abounded that Joshua was going to unify with Parker that fight materialised. I don't think Hearn's reputation as a maker of big fights or his willingness to set them up can be questioned here, whatever else you might think of him. He gets things done.

 

This. . Hearn went public with numerous offers he made to Wilder to face Whyte. He's yet to make Wilder any offers regarding Joshua.
Wilder wants it now , Hearn wants it sometime in the future , therefore I believe Wilder.
As you said , ive seen enough interviews with Hearn over the years to know when he really wants something , and Wilder is not something he wants for Joshua right now.

 

I actually don’t mind seeing any of the aforementioned bouts (AJ, Whyte or Breezy)

All would produce some real HW entertainment and all can be considered a foundational fight for future monetary demands during future negotiations involving the three.

Of course there’s no doubt the nurtured haters and pessimists will grab on to any piece of negative fabric they can feel and touch if Wilder fights Brezzy it will be because he’s ducking Whyte and AJ. If he fights Whyte he’s running away from a personal quarrel. Lastly if he doesn’t fight AJ it will be because he’s a fraud and certainly not because the promoters/managers could not come to terms on a fight contract.

Let’s wait for the drama queen battalion to chime in with their unaware babble.

 

Just set the things on the table and think a little:
Hearn always said the same thing: He wants to make the fight - Wilder vs Joshua. ( I am not going in to details ), Hearn never said "I won't make the fight".
Wilder on the other hand: damn I don't know from where to start. First he wanted to go to the UK and fight. Then he wanted the fight in the US, then he wanted a 50/50 deal, then Hearn offered him around 5 m. $ to fight Whyte. It was the smartest move ever. Take the money, beat Whyte and hype the fight with AJ so you can get at least 40/60 you dumbass Wilder. What did Wilder do? He fought the mega beast Stiverne. FOR THE FIRST TIME HE FOUGHT HIS MANDATORY OMG!!! Then Wilder said he got a restraining order and he can't flight to the UK and get up on the ring? Complete bull****. Wilder changed his opinion like 50 times in the last two years and lost me as a fan. I really liked this guy in the beginning... After the first fight with Stiverne I had huge hopes on him. His life story was awesome, trying to help his daughter etc. And then what happen'd? Wilder got dressed up like a pimp, talking bullshits all day. Attacking Breazeale in front of his family. He either got brainwashed from the drugs or from the money.

Get a conclusion for yourself guys. Hearn is a guy that you can't trust, but he never changed his main opinion about this fight: that he wants to make it happen. On the other hand Wilder talks random shits and is not even recognisable in his own backyard.

 

I believe both Wilder and Joshua want the fight.
I think Hearn as a promoter is attempting to get
as much as he can out of Joshua with minimal
risk to his standing as a current cash cow, and if possible
get some down the road revenue from Wilder. Promoters
are always attempting to exploit fighters that they don't
handle with contracts where they pull in revenue from
future fights.

 

If Wilder truly wanted Joshua he would have come to the UK. There's no way around that.

Whyte would have been a non-issue if Wilder had stormed the ring in the aftermath and publicly challenged Joshua.

 

Yes, Hearn is looking to do what any good promotor should be doing: looking to maximise the revenue to offset the risk he's taking to make the fight happen. That might mean he'll play hardball, and throw up all sorts of concessions to get things his own way, but that's his prerogative being in the strong bargaining position he's in. There's nothing to suggest he doesn't want the fight to happen full stop, whereas all I see from team Wilder is an endless stream of mixed messages.

 

I think both fighters want it. But no so sure about the promotors.

 

Mixed messages abound from both sides. I have no bias for
or against either side, both sides are spinning as much as
they can for position.

 

Promoters are scumbags.
Fighters fight.

If you think Eddie Hearn is looking out for anyone but himself you're completely deluded. 2019 is when Hearn wants this showdown. If he could stretch it out to 2020 and keep his Joshua money machine humming he'd be ringing his hands with ecstasy.

 

No, I try not to have any bias either. But one side has a proven track record of getting big fights made, albeit on their own terms, while the other side doesn't. It's that simple really.