Who do you consider the best heavyweight of all-time?

But Ali only lost after a 3,5 year lay-off. That he unlike Louis didn't lose in his prime (or at least very close to it) should count for something.

Well, he was a very highly regarded undefeated champ who had been breezing through most of his opposition before he met Ali.

 

Don't speak on issues you know nothing about.

 

Speak on it then please, this is not a part of history that i know much on to be honest, would like to learn though if you are knowledgeable on the subject.

 

He is a young man in a hurry.

 

Basically, "drafting" Ali was a PR ploy by our government. There were many young people who were against the war, so the government figure if they could get a young african-american "radical" to go, hopefully they could dismantle the opposition to the war.

Ali knew he wasn't going to be in danger. Yet, he was a representative to many people. He knew that the government was simply trying to use them as one of their tools and Ali was really against this.

Not to mention all of the racial injustice occuring in America around this time. Remember, Ali could win a gold medal "for his country", but when he got back to America, he couldn't even be served food from several of the Louisville's diners.

 

Oh, thanks. I always just took 'I aint got no quarrel with them Viet Cong' for face value. But what you're saying is that he knew he would have just been a puppet for the system and he said helll no.

Either way, he was a great man for his actions there imo.

 

I wouldn't call Ali a hero for refusing the draft, but I would sooner do that than call him a traitor or a coward. I can see why he didn't want to fight in a war he didn't believe in, for the benefit of a government he didn't believe in either. And he didn't run abroad or anything like that, but pleaded his case before the court instead.

Too bad, would have been something to have him in exile here in Sweden during his prime years, beating up on the local 'talent'.

 

Exactly. Ali knew he wasn't going to be "fighting" in any war. He knew that was not going to be in any real danger. Yet, he risked losing everything and facing possible jail time just for his beliefs. He never compromised what he believed in, and that's heroic for me.

 

Not in my book as i consider Marciano to be greater and Foreman never dealt with a good, durable boxing type of opponent, but it is a valid point as there is a good amount of people who have Marciano and Foreman ranked close, or even Foreman higher. I was playing devil's advocate a little, because i do think Liston came off his career best win (KO1 Patterson), especially if you consider Ali was relatively green, it's amazing.

 

Damn, you are a dumbass.

Did Ali's actions kill thousands of people?

Think before you talk....damn.

 

So according to Wealthy Elite, Ali is similar to a terrorist?

Damn what's your opinion of Rosa Parks?