REALLY??? Travel with him for a week or 2 to different countries like I do and you will see how WRONG you are:deal
Klitschkos will be remembered Chef dont worry. They are already in Finland almost as known as Lennox Lewis was.. History will be much more kind towards them than they currently are. Klitschkos especially Wlad will go down as truely Great Hw champ with one of the longest reign. Just dont worry they will get their dues finally when they are retired.:thumbsup
Did you ever consider taking up a new hobby? You should do, boxing seems a bit to complicated for you.
Its not the brothers that I hate - just some of the fans and the disrespect they have for the ATG fighters of the past - usually Ali,Holmes and Tyson get relegated to Klitschko cannon fodder when you get a fanboy in full flow . Also the way they dismiss lewis's TKO over Vitali and pretend it doesnt count because he was leading on the cards - the guys face was torn to shreds but the conspiracy theorist fanboys swear he could have fought on and KO'd lewis in the next round just defies belief - its the kind of nonsense you expect from WWE fans .
Becuase from 1964 to 1980 Ali fought far superior opposition and had a 3 1/2 year enforced lay during his peak years - Wlad being the king of a shitheap doesnt change it from being a **** heap.
I'll get heat for this but the Tyson of 87/88 would beat both brothers - Wlad would get starched , maybe Vitali would be a UD - the speed , the movement and ferocity of the combo's tyson had back then is like nothing they have faced , post prison Tyson would lose to Vitali and maybe Wlad if he could remain calm and composed after Mike landed one of the single haymakers he resorted to throwing in his twilight career .
I have no idea why I am taking the bait on this but I honestly do not feel ethnicity/race is the sole factor for dislike of the brothiers. It is challenging to not lash out via a visceral response when assaulted with the same lame, antiquated critique's, over and over. Usually by posters who inturn seek solice within the collective bosom's of fighters who display an overwhelming abundance of the NEGATIVE traits that flaired their sensibilities toward the brothers in the first place. Their just seems to be a double standard when it comes to the honest critique of Caucasian fighters and when confronted with this evidence you get called a "racist". After a while it stops meaning anything and you simply play along for lack of zeal or abundance impish gusto, you be the judge. In the interim; I am still going to enjoy watching the Klitschko's apply their craft and advancing the heritical doctrine that both brothers would have been COMPETITIVE with any fighter during any era of our/this sport
u nailed it/ its the disrespect the klit luvers have over past figheters ........agreed with the lewis/vitali stoppage/vitalis face was ha,burger and lewis was just starting to warmup
Im going with this too. :good It's also worth adding that the Ks are not the most exciting fighters to watch. They're very safety first and take very few risks. Whilst some might argue this is great technically, it isn't going to win many casual fans. They're the polar opposite of everything Mike Tyson was and whether you like it or not, he is one of the most popular heavyweights in history.
I don't see any problems with them and enjoy their fights. Instead of getting into this comical bull**** of a thread and the many ****ed up posts I will simply say....If you don't like them, don't watch them and quit making ****ed up threads over and over like this ******ed one. You don't like people appreciating them to much, people probably get just as tired of your hating to much! Now please remember you 16 year old's.......This is a boxing forum....for those that can't understand that.....please **** Off and leave the rest of us boxing fans in peace!
Nosbar, this seems like a reasonable and measured response coming from the imperial grand wizard himself. Amongst my favourite fighters right now is Bute, Lemeuix, Pavlik, and adamek and do not take race into consideration (I am half white and half black . . . with a little bit of native). What troubles me the most is that as soon as you do not kneel down before the second and third coming it has to be because of their race. I have been around boxing since i was in diapers, my next door neighbour was the Canadian middleweight champ, his son won a silver metal in the Olympics. My dad was a close friend of former heavyweight champ Trevor Berbick (i still to this day hang out with his son, who is kinda crazy like his dad), and a number of the Canadian champs and top world contenders made my home a hang out. My dad meet many of the great fighters and trainers in his day. Finally, Sam Langford is a distance ancestor. My point is that Boxing runs in my blood. I have seen many great fights and many great fighters and I am the last person to label someone great. So for now the Kbros are both very good fighters that have the potential to reach greatness. But for now I see them as limited and progressing ever so slowly towards that position Primarily because no one can mount a credible challenge. The problem is that you cannot gauge their abillitities because nothing has forced them to break out of the rudimentary style that is effective because of the limited competition. This limited competition has stunted their growth as boxers and may forever limit their status as only Very Good.
I actually believe that the original poster sums up a typical Klitschko hater nicely. Incoherent, possible downs, no boxing experience. Add koman600 to that and you got a winner combination, with the racism/inbred being brought up by the president.
But I see a big percentage of Klit fans doing it and doing it often. That's why they're so bad. And I don't like the way Froch looks in the ring. He's awkward and ugly as hell style, but he's fun to watch
I like both guys. What's not to like? Wlad went up a few notches with me when he started hunting Haye for ducking him. Haye Bitched Out! Without Manny Steward grabbing Wlad, they would not be rated so highly as ATG's but they would be thougt of as more fan friendly. Vitali is a stalker and a fan friendly fighter. Wlad used to me and that was when he was in danger of being cracked open. Without Manny, he would have been cracked at least 1 more time than he has. He is hard to land on now. But it sucks to watch and Manny has a hard time getting him to revert late in fights when he wants him to finish guys. Wlad kind of taints Vitali. But it is their competition which has really held them back. The Lewis rematch was a big loss. The recent actions of Haye and Povetkin caused them to have to dip lower in the rankings for challengers and kind of killed the credibility of the division, and the activity of contenders. When it comes so close TWICE that Derek Chisora is getting a shot, at 14-0 for having beat nobody, you know the division is F'd up.
You seem to have a habit of trying insult the poster without actually addressing the points made. How about you start with giving a proper response to what what was brought up earlier in this thread, and that is what countries the Klitschko's are popular in outside of Germany and parts of Eastern Europe. List the countries please.