Who do you guys have as the top Junior Weltweight of all time?

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  1. MVC

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    1. Zoo

    2. Hawk

    3. Cerventes

    4. Chavez

    5. Hatton

    6. Danny Garcia :rofl

    Discuss. For me, H2H Pryor. Greatest- Probably still Pryor.

    No one has dominated the 140 weight class like he has in his prime. He was not beatable at his prime, no one even came close.

    He only really lost in 87 because he was already a coke addict, + He was already pretty much permanently blind in 1 eye, possibly from the effects of the Arguello fight (probably caused it in some way or another)

    Cerventes has a great resume and a lot of great wins over ATG opponents, but I think Pryor edges it.
     
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  2. turbotime

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    <------------ smacks all of those guys up, already smacked one up and was about to smack another but the guy lost to Vince phillips :patsch
     
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    I'm not sure Oscar can beat Pryor.

    Sure Oscar had major punching power at that weight class, fast, elusive. But Pryor was something else.

    He had the heart, the will to win, the chin, the power, the speed. He was the complete package there
     
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  4. Nonito Smoak

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    Chavez
    Pryor
    Cervantes
    Locche
    Kostya

    ...maybe?
     
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  5. turbotime

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    So did Oscar, and he was the better pure boxer, stronger, and bigger.

    Don't see Pryor winning this fight. I believe Oscar makes him respect his power much moreso than Arguello was able to at this weight. Oscar was far better at 140 than Arguello.

    I think Oscar would be beating the Hawk handily, if not in dominating fashion. Pryor would go all out trying to catch up, and during the 11th Oscar stops him.
     
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  6. MVC

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    Oscar has power/size

    Pryor everything else

    Pryor wins here. :bart. 12 round decision UD

    Too many angles, too fast, too much drive. DLH lost to Mosley (Pressure/Workrate)

    Pryor has both, + better angles/reflexes than Mosley. And 5-10x the pressure. Pryor's pressure/workrate was nuts!
     
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  7. turbotime

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    Mosley hit far harder than Pryor did. He was also on roids, so unless you give Pryor the PED advantage than go and give it to Pryor.

    Pryor does not have better angles nor reflexes than Mosley.

    Mosley WAS faster.

    Pryor was caught a bunch of times in his fights and Shane wasn't ever shook until Oscar caught him 2 divisions above his best. Then Forrest after. Shane was also huge compared to Pryor. Shane was Oscar's size and Oscar hung in no problem.
     
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  8. realsoulja

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    Aaron Pryor, he is undefeated in that weight category.
     
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    Amir "King" Khan. He's dominated every opponent he's faced and has only ever lost because of his charitable desire to please the fans (rather than any inherent flaw, since he has none).
     
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    He weighted in at 160 lbs (fightnight) against Chaves Sr.
     
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    source?
     
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    Oscar is a safety first fighter and was never potent at fighting on the inside. (Clear from the John John Molina fight)

    Oscar was HOLDING for the entire fight.

    Pryor, being such a machine would throw punches and punches every round from 1-12. Roughs Oscar up and takes him to a 12 ud win.

    He was too fast, too powerful, too much workrate.
     
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    oscar got stronger at 140. Much stronger. he had no problems with roided Mosley even when Mosley was on the inside. Nor with Quartey. What made Pryor so much better
     
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    The black bottle, you know the he mixed
     
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    Pryor's angles in his punches, he's a Manny Pacquiao but better imo (Some may not agree but I think Pryor is unbeatable at 140), fast hands, elusive.

    :thumbsup

    You know what, let's just agree to disagree. I'm off to hit the hay.
     
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