Who do you lads have ranked higher ATG? Hopkins or Mayweather

Mayweather Jr is a certain ATG. Hopkins im unsure...

 

I cant believe what I'm hearing here, Hopkins' record pisses all over Jones and Mayweather's. The guys 44 years old and still competing at the top level. Hes a phenomenon. This is madness.

 

There are similarities between them; neither has convincing signature wins

Floyd's best is against Hatton, but again, he beat a smaller guy

On talent alone Floyd is on another planet, but Floyd gets WAY too much credit for who he would beat 'on paper'. Until he does it in the ring against legitimate threats he's remaining some way off the status his skill could probably have gained him, IMO.

 

Mayweather is the best boxer that has lived in my opinion,he makes world class operators look below average,...talent does what it can genius does what it must.

 

Oh God :roll:....abandon thread.

 

Well, we'd be able to judge better if he'd fight some **** of his own size, in their pomp

Hatton gave him enough heat and he was the smaller man, Judah gave him plenty, Castillo too

Not the record of the best ever, nowhere ****ing near

Best win against Arturo Gatti?

 

Yeah they are, the week after the fight something like 80% scored the fight to Joe in a poll.

Now the whole forum has changed it's mind.

 

atsch

 

Mayweather slightly.

I actually think there is not a great deal in it, it can only be a matter of a few places.

 

:nono
The guy has had tons of big fights and beaten a fair few future Hall of Famers.

 

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:rofl
Thats what happens to those who disrespec the legend that is Hopkins.

Thank you! :good

 

See people are having a few cheap shots at my expense here eh lads ????

 

What are you talking about?

 

Jeff, you're a bright guy who knows his boxing, but seriously: Mayweather and Jones Jr?

The two have perpetrated the greatest smokescreen in modern boxing. While Hopkins took on the best available in his weightclass and unified his division against Trinidad, Mayweather and Jones have sought to pad their record with guys who never had a realistic chance of beating them.

Jones hadn't fought a truly difficult opponent between Toney and Griffin, who gave him fits before Jones was disqualified. From the impressive blow out return with Montell, he didn't fight a single guy who was anything like a 50-50 fight. He chose to fight Clinton Woods rather than face Tarver (who had thrashed Griffin easily for the vacated belts) and unify. He jumps to HW to fight the weakest HW champ around, wins and then, forced to fight Tarver, wins an unconvincing decision. We all know what happened in the rematch. Roy is not an ATG. He's an ATG talent with a sub-par resume. End of discussion.

Mayweather is diminishing his legacy with stupid fights like the one against Marquez. Add to that, that since his fights against Castillo he's not exactly picked the toughest fights or any fight where he's not at risk and you have another one who's hardly an ATG. He might be yet, but he doesn't seem to want it.

Hopkins is worth 100 of both of them. At least he's been in fights that might be competitive. He faced unbeaten guys like Calzaghe and Pavlik, after beating the reigning LHW champ in Tarver - coming back from two losses where he held Taylor close despite his engine at MW running dry.