Who do you pick to stop Marciano?

Really? The guy couldn't even win a alphabet belt!

 

Yes you’re right, but Frazier also never proved he could defeat puncher of marcianos caliber

 

I agree here. Picking a cuts stoppage is bogus

 

He had to beat a 6’6 250lb ATG with a 84” reach.

How would marciano do against that man?

 

Styles make fights and I don't see Tua having many problems dispatching an aggressive, slow-footed, short-armed, wide-punching 185-lb slugger.

 

Here is how it plays out in my head.

No Marciano probably would not have beaten Lewis, but he would have beaten Byrd, and he would have beaten Rahman in the second fight.

He would have won his key eliminators, and he would have made additional opportunities for himself.

If he had been active in that era, then he would have been picking up belts.

 

I'm pretty sure he would close him down a lot better than David Tua did that's for sure! As much as I like David he spent too much time watching, Rocky alas would not.

 

The Byrd or Rahman fights were non title fights.

Tua got one title shot, against possibly the greatest head to head heavyweight of all time.

In marcianos era there only was one champion.

So tua couldn’t beat the man...

He still beat

Oquendo- robbed against Byrd
Rahman-lineal heavyweight champ
Maskaev- belt holder
Moorer- former lineal champ
Ruiz- future belt holder

He knocked all of these men out

Tua was a beast

 

Marciano wouldn’t last 3 rounds against a prime Lennox Lewis.

185lb. 68” reach against 6’6 250lb 84” athletic freak?


Get real

 

Surprised no one mentioned Big Daddy Bowe?
His demolition job on Bert Cooper (short come forward swarmer) was impressive.

Bowe knew how to put his punches together, and had killer instinct when he had a guy in trouble.

 

I agree but you went too far...Marciano did not punch wide. Watch the films, Goldman really cleaned him up. He punches with great leverage, he gets his entire body into it, he knew how to throw short and compact

 

They were title eliminators.

They were fights against key contenders.

They were the fights that would have got Tua shots at additional belts.

The fact that he never held any sort of title, is down mainly to the fact that he fell short in these fights.

they meant far more than beating a name fighter who was still nobody, or a name fighter who used to be somebody!

I admit that looking at these fights, I am surprised that Tua did not do better against ranked contenders.

We are left with the fact that he didn't though.

What would we be saying if this was a fighter from the 50s say?

 

I agree that he got great leverage and his entire body into his punches, but he still opened up from too far away at times, leaving himself exposed to potential counters. That was mostly fine against his opponents, who were mostly too physically overmatched to take advantage of it, but I think it would be costly against someone as durable and powerful as Tua.

 

Yeah, I don’t consider tua very intelligent in the ring . but I consider him an absolute freak with his strength, stamina, chin, and pulverizing left hook...I think he would manhandle any 185lb throughout history


Marciano would get countered to death and beat up by skilled superheavyweights like Lewis, Klitschko, Fury, or the smaller but ATGs like ALi and Holmes...too much height reach skill and movement

 

Who cares if he won an alpha belt? Those are meaningless. All that matters is beating the man, the lineal Champ. Tua won his eliminators and got his shot..he lost to Lennox Lewis

Being an alpha champion is absolutely meaningless!


What’s more impressive, fury beating wilder in a non title bout or fury beating Charr for the “wba” title?