Who Do You Rank Higher _ Marciano Or Frazier??

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Who do you rate higher?

  1. Rocky Marciano?

    28 vote(s)
    35.9%

  2. Joe Frazier?

    50 vote(s)
    64.1%
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  1. Richard M Murrieta

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    I do not pay attention to H20 fighters, but I do respect your opinion. Joe Frazier's opponents as lineal champion were not that dangerous except George Foreman. Muhammad Ali was as rusty as a gate in 1971. In 1967 it would have been a better fight, but Yank Durham did not want Joe in the ring with Ali back then, Joe was ready, he beat George Chuvalo in 1967. Bob Foster was a light heavyweight, Terry Daniels and Ron Stander were not life threatening at all, except for some trick or treaters, who were afraid that they might steal their candy.
     
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  2. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well put together, got me swaying.....
     
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  3. BCS8

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    I like Marciano's consistency over Frazier's big win. To me Walcott, Moore and Charles outweigh Ali.
     
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  4. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Most of Marciano's contemporaries considered Dempsey to be much better. Wonder what you make of that?
     
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  5. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Agreed. Marciano has Walcott, Moore, and Charles. While Frazier only has Ali. Forget Quarry, Ellis, etc. Seems fair.
     
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  6. George Crowcroft

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    But does it outweigh Ali, Quarry and Bonavena?
     
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  7. McGrain

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    I'd pick Frazier to batter Marciano (bigger and faster) but I think either or is fine on an ATG list.
     
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  8. Mendoza

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    Which ones? That's hard to believe as Dempsey never beat anyone as good as Charles, or Walcott. Perhaps Moore as well. Rex Layne maybe Rocky's 6-7th best win was being hyped as the next Jack Dempsey by some.
     
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  9. BCS8

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    To me those three are higher than any of Fraziers wins bar Ali.

    Guys like Lastarza and Layne were also highly rated when Marciano beat them. He's also got the "undefeated" aura going for him and Frazier not so much. Although - to be fair - Marciano might not be undefeated if he'd fought Ali and Foreman.

    On the eyetest, Frazier looks better.

    On actual reliability and metronome type consistency, Marciano.

    It's a matter of taste I guess.
     
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  10. Devon

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    Marciano beat everyone that was around and went undefeated in doing so, there was no more he could’ve done
     
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  11. louis54

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    Marciano beat the better men..walcott and louis would beat ali.... Ali hit like a little girl comparably
     
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  12. Richard M Murrieta

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    Thank You my friend.
     
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  13. Gazelle Punch

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    Well Dempsey thought Marciano his better. But I get ur point some people view the past with rose tinted glasses.
     
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  14. RealDeal

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    I’d pick Frazier H2H but probably go with Rocky based on resume.
     
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  15. Johnny_B

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    Marciano
     
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