Who do you rank higher all-time pound-for-pound: Felix Trinidad or Joe Calzaghe?

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  1. King Dan

    King Dan Golovkin Full Member

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    New to boxing or just a young lad?
     
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  2. EL-MATADOR

    EL-MATADOR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    than maybe you should study his career cause it's not close IMO
     
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  3. King Dan

    King Dan Golovkin Full Member

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    Not even kind of.
     
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  4. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tito's biggest win is in essence a robbery. His resume is vastly overrated, IMO.

    That being said, so is Calzaghe's.
     
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  5. DINAMITA

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    I think you mean what I call the Ricardo Lopez/Lennox Lewis dichotomy. I don't believe in guessing who would win if you shrank one guy or imagined one guy was bigger, as changing them physically means changing the way they fight completely, therefore it is an impossible and worthless thing to do. IMO, you can only discuss h2h fights between fighters who fought at the same weight, or who could have realistically fought each other.

    Therefore, I cannot give an answer on that. P4P, I believe Tito is marginally the greater fighter.
     
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  6. EL-MATADOR

    EL-MATADOR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    disagree with tito being overrated. but who do you rank higher?
     
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  7. King Dan

    King Dan Golovkin Full Member

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    Knocking out Maurice Blocker, Yory Boy Campas, Oba Carr, Vargas, Joppy and Mayorga is not too shabby if you ask me.

    Calzaghe can't even come close.
     
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  8. joejab

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    Would you consider 20 young? I have been following boxing and learning about it's history probally for the past 2 years or less? I'm that kid that saw Muhammad Ali fight once around when I was 14 and got hooked and started going to a gym when I was 15. Haven't started learning about other greats like I said for no more than for past 2 years. Who knows, maybe I'm just an idiot.:lol:
     
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  9. PanchoVilla

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    Trinidad obviously
     
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  10. King Dan

    King Dan Golovkin Full Member

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    Thanks for the reply and the insight.

    I can see your point but I just think it's fun.

    So when ranking guys in their pfp ranking, you go by resume and ability I would assume?
     
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  11. King Dan

    King Dan Golovkin Full Member

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    20 is not old, but you have served the sport well.

    I am 27 and love looking into the careers of all the greats.

    I have books on Duran, Tunney, Dempsey, Louis-Schmeling, Billy Conn, Sugar Ray Robinson and I love finding out info on all the greats.

    Ain't it fun?
     
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  12. joejab

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    :amen
     
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  13. peter5

    peter5 Marco.A.Barrera Full Member

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    I just read "A flame of pure fire; Jack Dempsey and the roaring '20s" You read it?
     
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  14. DINAMITA

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    Imagine someone sitting down and seriously reasoning out how a 5ft 2in, 98lbs version of Lennox Lewis would do v Lopez, or how a 6ft 7in 250lbs Ricardo Lopez would do against Lewis - the very idea is insane in the membrane!!!! :lol:

    When judging pound-for-pound I consider three things: resume, my own opinion of their abilities as formed on the evidence of watching their fights and reading about them, and how I think they would do versus the best fighters in their own weight class.
     
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  15. Gandul

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    I vote Trinidad by a mile... I honestly like JC (some of his fans are a pest but what da hell) what impresses me the most is his work rate, ethics and durability HOWEVER, there are a few things against him in my opinion...

    1. 98% of his fights have been in the UK. he never wanted to go out of his homeland to fight. To me this is a huge negative because he probably felt protected in his hometown and never gave a chance as to see what the world had to offer in boxing terms of course...

    2. Until recent history, his oposition were not widely known or proven in comparison to who Tito fought in his career.

    3. Unlike Tito... If today the fans ask Tito to fight X or Y person (who would have the credentials of course), Tito would honestly consider it as he always wanted to fight the best and loved to please the crowd... In contrast, even if we all pleaded JC to fight Dawson, KP or B-Hop again for example, I don't even think that he would consider it.
     
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