Who do you rank higher: Andre Ward or Joe Calzaghe

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Flo_Raiden, Sep 21, 2017.


Greater fighter

  1. Andre Ward

    112 vote(s)
    34.8%
  2. Joe Calzaghe

    215 vote(s)
    66.8%
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  1. Ilesey

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  2. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    the only thing thats serious is your inability to know what you are doing. I am writing in caps to help you see the obvious, which you miss again and again and again. see -

    YOU ARE DEFENDING HIM.


    HE DID SAY that JONES WAS SHOT. YOU SAID HE WAS STILL A GOOD WIN. THEREFORE JOE IS DISAGREEING WITH YOU QUITE CLEARLY and BLATANTLY. THESE CAPS are here because you keep missing this point.

    You keep denying Jes own words but theres only so many times I can write it in bold underlined before I give up.
     
  3. HerolGee

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    Good exmaple, thank you -

    Herol "cal was world class"
    bcs "cal was world class"

    these two statements AGREE, Johnny.

    Now observe -

    Johnny "Jones was a good win" paraphrase
    Joe Calzaghe "roy was shot, I'd be disappointed to fight him now"

    Thses do not agree, they are opposites.
     
  4. HerolGee

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    its worth adding that joe didnt defend the unified titles like ward did at all apart from bika.
    Joe didnt unify all the titles at all. He unifed ibf with wbo briefly, dropped ibf and later unified wbo with kesslers, immediately dropping them.
    joes were defenses were for an unrecognised body until 2005, meaning he made either 6 or 7 recognised defenses comparable to wards.
     
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  5. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dream on.
     
  6. Grooveongreg

    Grooveongreg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wards resume is better but h2h I fancy calzaghe in a razor right ud. In America might go other way
     
  7. CasualFan

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    Or a few years earlier because he would have been in the mix with Benn, Eubank, Collins etc. Spot on though it was a real shame, I remember reading an article about Joe and he even said it himself he wished he was born a bit earlier because without the huge rivalries he was relatively unknown until late on in his career.
     
  8. HerolGee

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    Judging on the fights he had and the belt to favoured, I doubt joe would have mixed it with Benn, but perhaps Eubank and Collins would have been possibles for him. Though my suspicion is he would have waited till they were older. More likely he would have fought 40somethings guys like Park, to get a name on his resume. Another possible would be the shot 45 year old Sugar Ray Leonard, whom joe would say barely win a split decision over gassing leonard, after being completely outboxed early on.

    He turned down his mando with elite Froch in the present so theres no reason to think he'd do different in any different time period.
     
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  9. bailey

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    So clearly Calzaghe. Cant believe this is even in question
     
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  10. HerolGee

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    i wonder where the few hopelessly wrong biased people are who think that calzaghe easily wins and stupid shyte like that.
     
  11. JohnnyDrama99

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    Sheesh.....you really need to get a hold of yourself. You can't even type what you want to type you're so rankeled.

    Typing in bold, enlarging the letters, underlining, changing the colors....calm down. I see, comprehend and have read everything you posted. No need to spend the extra time and energy unless it helps you get to a better place emotionally.

    I know Joe said Jones was shot. I already addressed that and already gave my reasons as to why it was still considered a good win for Joe. Tell me this....did Joe say in his book that the win over Jones was not a good performance or a good win?

    Look....I'm not trying to make you get all flustered or make you "give up". There's no need to get all in your feelings over this. I'm just giving you perspective on boxing as a whole. Whether or not it resonates with you is nothing for me to get bent out of shape about. Some people get it....others don't. I just enjoy providing insights about a sport I'm passionate about
     
  12. Todd498

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    Well once again... like in so many Calzaghe vs Ward type threads.. the people have spoke and Super Joe comes out on top by around 70%. There's still faith in humanity.
     
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  13. bailey

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    It shocks me that it is a question. Calzaghe had done more at SMW long before he fought Lacy with wins over Reid, Woodhall, Eubank, Sheika, Starie, Brewer, Mkertchyan, Mitchell by a long way, yet these fools still come out with rubbish.
     
  14. bailey

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    How is it better lol???
    Do tell
     
  15. HerolGee

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    I've told you already I'm not rankeled at all - thats the 2nd time you've tired to pass this off an me being upset after being told I'm not. Will you try it a third time? i expect so,in which case u are blatantly trolling.

    The reason I am increasing font size is you arent taking in whats said to you. The reason is YOU, not me. dont pretend its not you.


    Theres no higher font size than 7. If you've not read what I wrote yet, you never will, so I shall leave you alone to defend joe whilst joe argues against you.

    yes he did. AT LAST U GET IT. thank you. joe said he would be disappointed to end his career fighting shot jones. So he wouldnt rate it a good win at all. He disagrees with you.