Who do you rank higher: Andre Ward or Joe Calzaghe

Then Weeks takes a point or DQ's him on the spot!

 

Ha!

I had the same issue, trying to listen over the Russian commentary.

 

Same result at the end of the day. An "L". At least Kovalev would have had some retribution

 

I hadnt been on ESB for a while and come back and found 21 alerts from Loudon. Lol

 

You havent answered lol
I said tell me about the circumstances, which is something you always mention, yet here you havent answered but still want to pass comment.
So tell me who all of these tuneups were that you are not happy with and the circumstances around them. Simple question.
You give Ward a pass for tuneups so tell me the tuneups that Calzaghe had, which you have a problem with. Then we can discuss what you have written above, but dont duck the original question

 

Its funny how so many have an opinion yet were not watching the division back then and arent aware of the things they are so quick to comment about

 

Loudon is very delusional and even with video evidence argues. He just seems to want attention I think

 

And I had a ton from you a few weeks ago.

And?

What?

The difference is, I answer your points, whereas you conveniently go missing.

 

Too busy at work to spend as much on here as I used to.
I used to use ESB as a bit of a chill out, but have found it a bit repetitive and boring as well as being too busy.
If its one or two posts, I take time to reply, but you left over 20 which is very over the top. You have never even had half of that from me. Thats the What!

 

Andre had a stop-start career after the Super 6.

He had injuries and contractual disputes.

Rodriguez wasn't a great fighter, but he was acceptable after a year out of the ring.

The same applies to Smith and Brand etc. They were tune ups at the time.

Barrera wasn't great either. But he was a tune up before fighting Sergey Kovalev.

Do you understand?

Is this information sinking in?

Yes, Andre had a run of low level opponents. But he gets a pass due to his circumstances.


Again, Joe regularly fought guys of that calibre, and he was more than happy to do so.

Again, in 2003, he knew he couldn't unify the SMW division. Now that wasn't his fault, but he knew he couldn't get Ottke in the ring. He then spoke of moving up to LHW, saying that there was nothing else on the horizon at SMW. I can post you an actual quote.

There was nothing else on the horizon, and he said that he knew he had to move up. The WBO also offered him a shot at Dariusz/Gonzalez.

Did he move up?

No.

Even though he knew there was nothing else on the horizon and that Ottke wouldn't fight him, he remained at SMW, a division where he had to starve himself to make weight, to fight: Mkrtchyan, Salem and Veit.


Now do you get it?

Andre fought Barrerra, whilst looking ahead to fighting a feared LHW.

Joe fought the likes of Mkrtchyan, with nothing else in the pipeline.


Joe didn't have tune ups in the same way. He was just happy to fight whoever was put in front of him, which included fighting guys like Mario Veit for the 2nd time, even though he'd already beaten him in a round, just a few years earlier. But he had to right? Because the WBO said so? The WBO were a laughing stock back then, moving dead guys up their rankings, but Joe didn't care. He didn't care because he wanted an easy ride. He's bragged of his number of title defences. Which tells you that he was more than happy to fight the Mkrtchyan's and Salem's.


Joe would never have moved up to LHW to fight a guy like Sergey Kovalev. And if you argue otherwise, then you are completely deluded.

 

The video is a pile of horse manure.

It ignores all of the legal shots, and then counts the supposed low blows, even though you can't actually see them land, because the camera angle is looking from behind Kovalev.

It's not evidence.

It's a desperate video made with an agenda.

 

If Reid had gotten the decision and Joe had been offered that same amount, you'd know doubt have gone mad.

 

Yes, I have.

Go and look.

 

Once again, you have failed to answer the most simple of questions and just waffled on pointlessly and tried to have a dig with comments that have little to no substance.

Lets try it all again and hopefully after constantly passing comment, will be able to answer.

Who were all of the tuneups that Calzaghe had which you were not happy with and the circumstances around them?

Thats the question there that you have ducked so many times.
I asked about the circumstances as you always point to the importance of them to suit your agenda, so please answer the question if you can. List the fighters and the circumstances

 

Denial at its finest