Who do you rank higher at welterweight: De La Hoya or Trinidad?

Tito.

 

I think its a no brainer to be truthful.

Trinidad never lost at welterweight. He fought in more bouts at that class than Oscar did, and beat better fighters including Oscar himself.

 

Trinidad to me no doubt. Well not no doubt maybe, but always for me. On paper, Trinidad looks like the best of the era, however if results would have went how i personally thought they did between that era's best then you would have -
Quartey beating Oscar
Oscar beating Trinidad
Trinidad being dominant for a long time before the Oscar showdown
Mosley beating Oscar, Mosley would be the best 147er for a while in the 'next 147 era', an era in which no clear-cut era's best would be produced, as they just all beat each other.

(I havent judged Pea-Oscar BTW),
So, on the subject of Oscar's/Trinidads era, no real clear-cut division's best of the era is produced, so 1 must make their own pick, i think there was too much done by both to simply go off their h2h bout, i would clearly pick Trinidad using this method of analysis, (AT 147)

 

Trinidad did lose at welterweight.......To Oscar De La Hoya. He lost at least 7 out of the first 9 rounds.....making it impossible for him to win the fight.


If you want to get technically........Trinidad never lost at welterweight becuase he never fought mosely, lopez, or a younger whitaker.

 

I dont see how you could give the quartey-DLH fight for quartey considering oscar won 10-8 round in the 12th. to give the quartey fight edge to him, you would have had to have ike up at least 3 points going into the 12th, and no way was he ahead by that much. I had quartey ahead 105-104 going into the 12th, oscar got a 10-8 round to win the fight 114-113

 

I dont see how you could give the quartey-DLH fight for quartey considering oscar won 10-8 round in the 12th. to give the quartey fight edge to him, you would have had to have ike up at least 3 points going into the 12th, and no way was he ahead by that much. I had quartey ahead 105-104 going into the 12th, oscar got a 10-8 round to win the fight 114-113

 

The decision went in favor of Trinidad, and there is nothing we can do to reverse that. Outside of a controversial verdict, De La Hoya has no case here, and speculating about the outcomes of fights that never happened is no rebuddle.

 

Do you like my post Suzie???!! Haha, just windin u up! Trinidad is an ATG/elite welter imo though

 

Mosely getting embarrased by vernon forrest twice fully removed his chances to be rated as the best welter of the era. Trinidad and DLH are more accomplished welters. Shanes whole legacy at 147lb is a close split decision over Oscar in a stylistic advantage.


I would also like to point out if oscar at age 35 beats floyd mayweather at 147lb, he should be rated a top 10 welterweight of all time.

 

So then holyfield should get credit at age 37 for fighting ATG Lennox lennox to a draw? afterall, we cant reverse that.

Oscar also beat past prime but still great version of sweet pea whitaker, he beat ike quartey who is better than tito, and he was the first man to stop julio cesar chavez. Unlike tito, oscar fought the best of his era. I always rate guys high who do well fighting the best of there era, they are more proven. oscar also has a chance to boost his legacy at 147 against a prime floyd mayweather.

 

Suzie, i had it by 1 point for Quartey, i dont give even rounds, and a couple of the close ones i give to Quartey (justifiably) on the strength that he edged it with his jab-work, he was jabbing his face off at times.

The thread is about who you have higher anyway, why must you interpret my analysis of the thread? Do u think im right??!!!

 

OMG, did you even read my initial post or do you have a chip on your shoulder, you're the 1 being embarrassed here.

I said- Mosley was part of the post Oscar/Trinidad era, an era in which all the top guys beat each other (Shane, Forrest, Mayorga, Spinks), they all never lasted long at the top of the pile, so its hard to say whos the best of THAT era. The reason i put Moslrys name in my post is because he did beat Oscar clearly before Oscar departed 147, which is relevant to this debate.

PLEASE do not respond to some little part of my post in an effort to nitpick

 

No, I think Oscar should be above Tito. He beat tito, and beat better opposition at 147lb than tito, and h2h he matches up better vs the greats at 147lb than tito.

 

I read it, I disagree with your assesment because you picked trinidad. He reigned long, but he did not fight the best 147lbers of his era like oscar did, and the only mega fight at 147lb tito fought in......He got badly outboxed.