Who do you rank higher chavez or monzón in a pfp latin list?

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  1. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I put monzón above chavez, he fought and did beat the best available guys , made 14 defences of the title and retired as champion of the world. Yes chavez won in different weight classes but i think that carlos was better and more dominant mw than chavez was at any weight between 130 and 147
     
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  2. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Both great fighters. But, since the inquiry is P4P, I lean towards Chavez. At 130 and 135 Chavez was a total beast.
     
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  3. PernellSweetPea

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    Probably Chavez . This is tough.
     
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  4. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Good question but I've got to lean towards Monzon on this.

    Chavez spread himself across divisions. He's probably the best 140 pounder ever and was a tremendous lightweight too although spent too little time there to be ranked really high at 135.

    Monzon has a strong case as the greatest middleweight of all time. To be that high in boxing's second marquee division just tips the balance in his favour in my view.

    Both undeniably great though.
     
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  5. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Chavez by a close margin.
     
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  6. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chavez.
     
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  7. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Chavez. I believe Julio won 30 title fights across 3 divisions. The guy was dominant.
     
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  8. Clinton

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    For me Escopeta, crazy ****er that he was.
     
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  9. JohnThomas1

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    Chavez.
     
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  10. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not sure how one can rate Monzon in a p4p capacity, when he never tested himself above his ideal weight. What's worse, in the division Monzon exclusively fought in, he generally enjoyed a size advantages in those fights. So I'm not sure how this is even a question, it's clearly Chavez imo
     
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  11. he grant

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    P4P you have to go w Chavez .. fought in far more weight divisions and beat better fighters ..
     
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  12. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    No he did not
     
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  13. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Stupidest comment ever... Ali only fought at hw and he is rated in the top 5 or 10 pfp list .
     
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  14. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Much better fighters.
     
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  15. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Chavez lost against the only great fighters that he fought in withaker and de la hoya.
    Camacho,taylor, rosario,roger,la porte,castillo.. No of them was great.. So where is your "much better fighters "?
    Much better than nino benvenuti, emile grifith,mantequilla nápoles, benie briscoe, rodrigo valdez,jean claude bouttier,licata?
     
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