Who do you rank higher: GGG or Sergio Martinez

In this world of fake news and misinformation GGG is the GOAT.

In reality he's an HBO creation and hypejob, forum nerd favorite that's never beaten even a B+ level fighter like Danny Jacobs without controversy. Couldn't beat a much smaller Canelo who gassed out after 4 rounds and had to lay on the ropes the whole fight.

GGG looks fantastic beating up bums but put him in with anyone near elite and we see just how limited he is.

 

You're ****ing kidding me right? Golovkin did his damndest to get Sturm and Martinez in the ring, which were the hardest fights available to him early on. He also was signed to fight Pirog and ended up vs Proksa instead. All the other guys with "names" that he wanted to fight at some point or another all came down with mysterious problems that prevented the matchup.

 

On resume, sure, but H2H Golovkin punches a hole right through drink of water Floyd

 

And GGG wouldn't even move up one weight class to fight light punching Ward LMFAO and PBF fought from 130-154. Also if PBF and GGG were the same size the fight wouldn't even be worth talking about.

 

A lot of people on this board confuse the concepts of H2H and p4p. Golovkin is a better fighter than FMJ is period. Prime for prime he destroys FMJ.

Though I would say that FMJ is the better p4p fighter.

 

Ward didn't want GGG at 168, he categorically stated this.

A fighter doesn't scale up and retain the same characteristics.

 

I can't really disagree with that since Floyd's resume is elite and GGG's is not.

 

What annoys me though is that people think that FMJ could move up and defeat a long reigning 160 pound champion with power. When FMJ started at 130, he never fought at 160. And his only 2 fights at 154 were against an old Oscar De La Hoya and a professional MMA fighter, FFS.

People come on here and literally say FMJ would outbox GGG. It's not going to happen. He's too small.

 

I understand all of this. I was illustrating how people can move between Hispanic and white based on agenda.

 

If both were the same size and prime PBF would box circles around that slow handed mummy and not take much in return. FFS Canelo and Jacobs touched GGG up. H2H PBF is the much better fighter are you're ****ing kidding me? PBF has GGG beat in every department except power.

 

Again you're confusing the concepts of h2h and p4p.

Golovkin would beat FMJ in a fight. Therefore he's h2h a better fighter.

FMJ is the better p4p fighter.

You have shown resistance in the past when discussing these concepts. You tend to group them together when they're different concepts.

 

LMFAO he's not a better fighter than PBF. That is ridiculous to say. His best win is Jacobs a guy who he went life and death with and a guy who he was heavily favored to knock out. A guy who's a better fighter than PBF doesn't struggle with a fighter like Jacobs period.

 

GGG wanted no parts of facing Ward at 168 neither did you and the majority of his fans. Who do you think you're fooling here? People like you made every excuse in the book as to why the fight shouldn't happen and told Ward to move up and fight Kovalev.

 

What track record? Spell it out?

 

Frazier is my no1 fighter of all time, next GGG....Perhaps you got me mixed up with someone else, but I recognise fighters black or white, that's why I brought it up , i'm hardly gonna say it and be as bad myself am I. Just be truthful, because when you have an agenda your opinion becomes off mark, and blatant. I know you know your ****, that's whats ****ing annoying about it ! I'll give you my list of top 10 fighters ever/current if you are interested, puts your argument to bed straight away