Who do you rank higher H2H Norton or Jeffries

Norton struggled against Scott Ledoux, got a gift of a draw. Jeffries would beat Ken.

 

Jeffries easily higher

 

Norton was 36, an age at which Jeffries hadn't seen a victory in 7 years...

Jeffries remains some sort of White God worshipped by his desperate fanbase who love to turn the likes of midget Sharkey and geriatrics Corbett (a part time boxer at best) and Fitzsimmons into Heavyweight Titans. For all of Jeffries' supposed physicality (and he would have par for the course in Norton's day) he still could only manage to grind our attrition victories against his best (and not an awe-inspiring "best") opponents.

Prime Norton does Jeffries faster and more emphatic than he did Quarry.

 

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Why do you assume that we idolize Jeffries?

 

The recent neverending jeffries vs whomever threads weve been seeing?

 

Maybe its all the excuses made for him?

 

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I thought the thread was who rates higher historically. Sorry. To me jeffries easily historically. H2h is tougher for me I think the sport advanced a lot from the time of Jeffries and Johnson for that matter.

 

Norton.

 

I don't think that anybody here sees Jeffries as a hero.

He had some awful values, even by the standards of the day.

His title reign for all its flaws, was probably the best prior to Joe Louis.

That is why people are prepared to defend him up to a point.

 

For the record as well, Norton is a terrific h2h fighter and gets a bum rap when it comes to punchers.

He lost an early fight that he later avenged. He lost to Foreman but so did Frazier and when past his best he lost to Cooney and Shavers.

But he survived many rounds against hard hitters like Ali and Holmes. If his chin was that bad he wouldn't have survived round 15 with Holmes.

 

Norton. I really don't see Jeff going the distance with Ali and Holmes, and giving them hell for leather!. But I can see Norton stopping Corbett and Fitz a lot easier than Jeff did. Most of the lineal champions throughout history, Norton would do better against than if Jeffries faced em.

 

Exactly.
I can't think of any other heavyweight fighter who is judged so strongly off two late career defeats (v. Shavers and Cooney) when he was well past his best.

 

It's like it's become a boxing fact that any big puncher wipes him out.