Who do you rate higher Ali or Holmes?

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  1. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Member Full Member

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    Ali and that's not even a debate in my opinion, and I'm a big fan of Holmes.
     
  2. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Member Full Member

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    Not that it's an argument in a debate, but just to play devil's advocate, Ali had to climb off the deck against the killers like Cooper and Banks.
     
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  3. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    On legacy it’s not even close on head to head it is.
     
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  4. PRW94

    PRW94 Active Member Full Member

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    All time, Ali, Louis, Holmes at the top in that order.
     
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  5. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The moderators should pin this.
     
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  6. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But Holmes did things that Mike Tyson never did....Holmes got off the canvas after being decked...and came back to win that fight...can't say the same for "Iron" Mike...
     
  7. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's a pretty poor list,,,,
     
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  8. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do you wonder how much boxing our friend actually watched to come to that conclusion?
     
  9. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Member Full Member

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    But it's a topic where we compare Holmes to Ali, not Holmes to Tyson. Majority of this forum would agree Holmes should be rated higher than Tyson.
     
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  10. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Heard an old man several years ago on a different subject talking to a younger guy who said so and so was the best he'd ever seen. The old man said ", the best you've ever seen is nowhere near the best I've ever seen"
     
  11. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic For the honorable cross and the golden freedom Full Member

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    On what basis?
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  12. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holmes was 2-4 against other IBHOF members. Tyson was 1-3.
     
  13. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Member Full Member

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    Nobody cares in this thread.
     
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  14. Ney

    Ney Active Member Full Member

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    Have you mistaken which thread you’re in? You may be looking for the Holmes-Tyson discussion?
     
  15. Ney

    Ney Active Member Full Member

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    A quite green Ali in both instances, & a prime or thereabouts Holmes. But more to the point, I was of course being somewhat facetious in mocking the margin between Ali & Holmes on résumés. Holmes is quite over-rated by many, in my view. Certainly an ATG, but close examination of his CV isn’t pretty reading. He needs to come in for more of the treatment Marciano gets from his detractors.
     
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