Who do you rate higher as an ATG: Tyson, Lewis or Holyfield?

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  1. Manos de Piedra

    Manos de Piedra Active Member Full Member

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    if holyfeild is so great how come he lost so many fights, plus its proven fact he used steroids most of his carreer
     
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  2. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Don't forget he beat Qawi on cocaine water.
     
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  3. The_Hitman92

    The_Hitman92 EST & Registered 2008 Full Member

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    Lewis all day.
     
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  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    No, i'm pretty happy with his slot just now. Whilst what you say is true, he also has Sharkey. As far as his physcial attributes go, he seems to be right up there in terms of strength, durability, punch resistance. And his contempories and those who came immediatly after him seemed to really, really rate the guy.

    Regardless of the limitations of some of his opponents, there's little criticism possible of his fight-record given that his only loss came way past prime against one of the best.
     
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  5. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I know what your saying. Although I think you're doing Lewis a big disservice by suggesting that he was only good because he was big and had a good right hand. It's overly simplistic to suggest that. Lewis was actually a highly skilled boxer with an awsome jab.
     
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  6. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lewis
    Holyfield
    Tyson
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    Eric Crumble


    Y'know, considering I watched through the whole heavyweight scene of the 90s, it's amazing how Lewis's reputation amongst American fans & media in particular has turned around.
    I read a complementary piece about him from Ron Borges a few months back. Ron f'n Borges.
    No word from Wally Matthews as of yet.

    I think the problem is, and certainly Holyfield and Lewis suffered from this, is that through your career you'll have a lot people wanting you to be one thing or another. Both were under the shadow of Tyson, and ironically so was Tyson eventually as his abilities waned.

    It's often not until it's all over and done with that you can look back on it and say that THIS was how you did it, your own path, not what others wanted.
     
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  7. Monstar

    Monstar The Future.. Full Member

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    this..
     
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  8. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Close, arguable either way but I got......

    Tyson
    Holyfield
    Lewis
     
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  9. Slider75

    Slider75 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lewis by a mile!
     
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  10. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Holyfield
     
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  11. Bodysnatcher

    Bodysnatcher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  12. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    I've chose Holyfield because of his achievements at CW plus the fact that he did so well at HW, one other thing that swung it was the fact that IMO Tyson would have wiped the floor with Lewis in his prime.
    Holyfield - Superb at both CW and HW
    Lewis - Longevity places him above Tyson
    Tyson - Could have been higher but never reiged long enough and sometimes wilted when his opponents stood up to him
     
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  13. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    This is more or less how I see it, and I agree with everything you wrote. I voted Holyfield. Although I disagree that "Tyson would have wiped the floor with Lewis".
     
    El Cepillo, Apr 21, 2009
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  14. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Lewis
    2. Holyfield
    3. Tyson
     
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  15. toffeejack

    toffeejack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Holyfield
    2. Lewis
    3. Tyson
     
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