Who do you rate Higher Mosley or Trinidad?

Mosley is overrated.

 

Tito easy.

 

Personally I would choose Mosley.

Mosley had more talent imo.

 

Mosley in my opinion but not by too much. Mosley has two wins over de la Hoya compared to Felix's one, plus Mosley's 2000 win was much clearer (I don't think Trinidad came close to beating de la Hoya).

Mosley's run at lightweight was almost as strong as Trinidad's at Welterweight. Mosley never managed to unify the straps at lightweight but Trinidad never managed to do the same at welterweight even though he was champion for a longer period. Mosley has solid wins over Molina, Leija, Holiday. Trinidad has solid wins over Blocker, Carr, Camacho, Campas.

Longevity has to go to Mosley, he moved up to 147 and claimed some very nice scalps in Diaz, Collazo, Margarito. Tito sort of burned out quick after Hopkins and put in a much worse showing against Wright than Mosley did, even though Tito was the bigger man.

Lets also take their runs at each others worse weight. Trinidad at 160 and Shane at 154. I think you can only say that Shane has the better of Trinidad here too. Wins over de la Hoya (thought Mosley lost), Vargas, and Mayorga. Trinidad has what? Joppy and Mayorga.

I also think I'd favour a prime Mosley vs a prime Trinidad at 147 but I can see the majority disagreeing. I would vote but I just want to see who votes for who first. Surprised at why the cobra thinks Trinidad is better, would be really interested in what he has to say.

 

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Trinidad's historic albeit short run at 154 edges it for him. It put him close or on par with the likes of Hearns, Norris, McCallum, Jackson etc. I also believe Tito would've beat Shane at welter.

 

Mosley for me.

 

The thing that really hurts Trinidad's legacy for me at 147 is the fact he never got round to fighting Ike Quartey or a Pernell Whitaker that was completely past it. Trinidad does have some really good wins, really really good, over guys like Blocker and Campas, and two very good wins over both Carr and Campas but...where's the fearsome Ike Quartey and Pernell Whitaker? He didn't get to Quartey and he only got to Whitaker after he'd had his swansong perfomance in a losing effort against Oscar, a man that hadn't been a 147 champion anywhere near as long as Trinidad.

Mosley on the other hand did fight some bad fighters at 135, but Trinidad fought a number of cans at 147. Mosley also has solid wins, very good wins, over the likes of Holiday (who he won the title off), then defeated every challenger by stoppage or KO. Those stoppages and KO's came against very good fighters like Leija and Molina.

Is Shane's run at 135 as good as Trinidad run at 147? No, but I think its very very close indeed.

I'd love to have seen the de la Hoya Shane take on the Campas Trinidad.

 

Why didnt he fight quartey?

You are forgetting that oscar edged whitaker by an inch, so lets not act as if tito had oscars seconds.

I think a prime tito would have got a late stoppage against shane.

 

Not sure about Quartey. I know Tito had problems with King and that Quartey wasn't the most active fighter but when Tito was willing to jump up to 154 to fight Norris, you kind of had to wonder whether the problems with King were as bad as made out and he was willing to skip Quartey to fight Norris...I'll give Tito the benefit of the doubt but something fishy maybe afoot.

 

Tito had a basic style, but I dont think he gets enough credit for some of the stylistic issues he faced, which he was able to overcome.

Take Whitaker, Camacho, David Reid, Oba Carr, Vargas, now from the outset, they look like tough matches stylistically for someone as mechanical as Tito, yet it just shows how effective he was at 147, that he was able to overcome these issues.

 

One thing that gets very underrated about Tito is his hand-speed with both hands and the 94/95 Tito was at his best cause as funny as it might sound to some he was a boxer puncher then.

But back on topic, like someone said already, Tito JMW run wins it out for me. And in truth and I'm not saying this in hindsight, Mosley should have never been considered p4p #1, Roy Jones should have always had that title back in 2000-02.