Who do you rate higher: SRL or Gene Tunney?

Resume, Leonard.
Not even debateable.


H2H and P4P I have Leonard easily too.

 

Don't know Tunney that well. What are his best wins after Greb and Dempsey?

 

Tommy Gibbons

 

Todd only at 19??????

 

I put Todd at 16 myself. I didn't think that was controversial but I guess it maybe a generational thing. He is a polarizing figure.

 

And it's important to put into context that he beat both Dempsey and Gibbons in the last fights of their careers.

 

SRL is no 2 at 147lbs imo.Tunney does not make my top ten at heavyweight but he is in my top 4 at light heavy.
Leonard for me.

 

Ok, Ill ask, who is Todd?

 

i got srl slightly ahead in both catagories, no disrespect to tunney who was a great too.

 

i'm going with this guy, that loss to richie woodall must have been a robbery. http://boxrec.com/boxer/5614

 

True, but if he hadn't beaten them they probably wouldn't have been taking part in the last fights of their careers.

 

Tod Morgan, I presume.
Very underrated. Not quite top 20 for me though.

 

To be fair Dempsey had just beaten Jack Sharkey a month or two previously so had a bit left in the tank. That said, I still think Leonard has the better CV and gets some really undeserved disrespect at times. You can pick holes in some of his best victories (Duran was out of shape, Hearns had eaten some plums and struggled with weight, Hagler was shot, Lalonde 7lbs underweight and a bit average to begin with) but you could pick apart most great fighters' victories - Marciano, Hagler, Hearns, Louis even, all have an asterisk next to some of their greatest wins. Leonard was one of the greatest figures in arguably boxing's greatest decade and, for me, a fighter needs to have done more than Tunney did to be put on quite the same pedestal.