Who do you rate more highly: Joe Calzaghe or Bernard Hopkins?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by El Cepillo, May 8, 2009.


  1. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calzaghe is better without a doubt. Stop ridding Hopkins' nuts fools.
     
  2. THN

    THN Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hopkins by a landslide !
     
  3. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    21 and counting....
     
  4. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    They've pretty much accomplished the same things during their careers. Calzaghe has an advantage going head to head, and career record. (retiring undefeated) In addition to beating one of the guys that beat him. (Roy Jones)

    But most importantly Bernard has what I consider the best heads up on Calzaghe in quality of opposition.
     
  5. dhenzrae

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  6. qwertyz

    qwertyz Ready to rumble Full Member

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    These are two examples why Calzaghe's a better fighter. Somebody also said that Calzaghe would have troubles with prime RJJ only (I mean Hopkins' opponents) and I agree too. Another thing that makes me for Joe is that he shows how a great fighter should finish his career. He finished, as a champion, besides UNDEFEATED, said ok it's enough, beat many great fighters including Hopkins. B-Hop could finish after beating Pavlik or take 2 more fights I mean Dawson and Adamek, while avoiding these fights he loses a lot IMO. If he won them both he would be for sure a better fighter. Currently Dawson and Adamek are the best boxers in their divisions, so after beating BadChad, fight Adamek and become a king of another division you could be saying he was better. Two losses to JT don't look proud. He should fight two guys I mentioned and finish his carrer as a champion. Then I think nobody would doubt he's better than Calzaghe. Of course there's always somebody who will complain it's not a true. They both have accomplished a lot, their achievements are at similar level, thus winning Dawson and Adamek would let him to stand a bit above JC.

    greetings,
     
  7. EpsilonAxis

    EpsilonAxis HNIC Full Member

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    Hopkins but not by too much.

    Calzaghe is arguably the greatest fighter ever at 168. Hopkins arguably the greatest at 160.
     
  8. Damo1712

    Damo1712 Boss Full Member

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    Hopkins still in p4p doesnt duck any1
     
  9. Brit Sillynanny

    Brit Sillynanny Cold Hard Truth Full Member

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    Does anyone understand the relevance of the fact that BHOP has a close dec and split dec loss to Taylor at the AGE OF 40 and 41 and a close split dec loss to Calzaghe at 43?

    How that detracts from his career is beyond comprehension.
     
  10. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Joe isn't losing the poll because you think he is unpopular.

    He is losing the poll because Hopkins is the better fighter, with a better resume and greater accomplishments.

    No shame in that, Calzaghe was a very good fighter too.
     
  11. qwertyz

    qwertyz Ready to rumble Full Member

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    Who cares his age ? If he's fighting that means he's in good shape and he's able to defeat guys like JT. The age doesn't matter, result does. Two losses, via SD or UD, by JT - for 'ATG' fighter ain't look good. Finally loss by Calzaghe, also shows who was better in direct fight, not much, but Calzaghe was better. You know ... everyone has to know when to 'go down from the stage', it's also a way of recognizing great champions. JC has done it in proper time. This is why I consider his as a better fighter than Hopkins. That's my opinion and you will not change it, dude.

    I'm also sure that if JC was American then he would rule this poll, altho it was ment to vote with 'brain not with your passport'.
     
  12. mike464

    mike464 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calzaghe was very lucky to get the decision against a 43 year old Hopkins. A prime Hopkins would have destroyed him. Isn't that much obvious?
     
  13. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I think Hopkins circa 2001-2004 would have beaten Calzaghe clearly.

    But...Calzaghe has a difficult style for Hopkins to overcome, and it would not have been a destruction at any stage.
     
  14. Kaki

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    shut the **** up seriously... you're just repeating what others have said. You nuthug Calzaghe, you don't care for any other boxer, or boxing for that matter. "incredible longetivity" please shut up. "blown-up welters" those blown-up welters are ATGs. Tell me, is Hagler overrated?

    Prime Hopkins beats prime Calzaghe any time.
     
  15. mattress

    mattress Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Never been a fan of Hopkins....as a person or a boxer. Saying that though, he is of the greatest of his era. The fact that he's still doing the business, at his age, speaks volumes. Respek.