Who do you think GGG will fight next?

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  1. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Exactly

    I gave him 3 but stiff jabba pulled me up on it
     
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  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :eusa_doh:Hey BCS8 how about next time you pay more attention to what fight we're talking about before responding about the wrong fight lol.:lol:
     
  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Which rounds, and how many other rounds would you say were close that you gave to Mayweather?
     
  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    @ Shadow.

    Wow, you really thinks Canelo won the fight? Why are you so quick to to dismiss punch stats, the media score cards, and IMO did not blast judge Byrd as much you have for scoring it 118-110! You also dismissed the PED charges, which were found in the second fight. Are you saying such a cheater didn't do it in the first fight too? He probably did.

    Your'e scoring is atrociously bad, for example you think Canelo won round 4. Well GGG landed 23 blows, Canelo just 14. Pretty easy to score. How can you say with a straight face? Canelo won this round? And you suspect Canelo won round 5. More BS GGG out landed Canelo again 22-14, plus had more Power punches landed 12-8 if you are going to play that card. What are seeing here is a poster trying " to give Canelo rounds he did not win to justify " his " card when the ring action and the punches landed suggest otherwise.

    In rounds 1-3 GGG out-landed Canelo yet again, in each round. Notice how you only gives the close rounds to Canelo and none to GGG? Why is this so? You can score a round 10-10 by the way. This is the sign of a biased person. You can't even argue draw, which is usually the limit on robbery for the anti types or huge fans for the guy who should have lost.

    I have not followed you but I suspect he's been on GGG's case for a while. Am I right? Have you played Con at length on him before or after Canelo?

    As for Canelo waiting for GGG to age, I think he did it clearly. Many saw it this way. A 35 vs a 27 year old? Stock down for the 27 year old for drawing, and oh my did he have help with the judges. The straight dope is Canelo is the golden goose and will be fighting for more years, and the PPV draw, so he got the help. I would not bet against him....do the opposite because he'll have to be knocked out to lose. Remember by age 35 both Hagler and Monzon were retired. As for Oscar's judges we saw the BS with Byrd. And more of them in the re-match.

    I guess I should show you the media cards. You had it at least 7-5 for Canelo, giving him round 5 arguably so 8-4 for Canelo? LOL. Does anyone agree with this? Not. Even ESPN Mexico ( not listed did not thin Canelo won ) When I'm that far out, the only one vs 30+ I revaluate. You can too if you choose. See below

    I'm sure you'll dismiss all of these people, punch starts, and argue against reason for the rest if you choose to reply. Smart and experienced boxing fans are buying it.

    Thanks though for your reply. Others usually run for cover rather than answer my questions.

    Media cards:

    Harold Lederman (HBO Sports): 116-112 Golovkin

    Brian Campbell (CBS sports): 116-112 Golovkin

    Dan Rafael (ESPN): 114-114 draw

    Salvador Rodríguez (ESPN Mexico): 114-114 draw

    Gareth A Davies (The Telegraph): 116-112 Golovkin

    Josh Peter (USA Today): 115-113 Golovkin

    Dylan Hernandez (LA Times): 115-113 Golovkin

    Lance Pugmire (La Times): 114-114 draw

    Box Scene: 114-114 draw

    Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports): 115-113 Golovkin

    Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports): 114-114 draw

    The Guardian: 116-112 Golovkin

    Joe DePaolo (Washington Post): 115-113 Golovkin

    Sherdog: 116-112 Golovkin

    Jai Bednall (news.com.au): 115-113 Golovkin

    Brian Mazique (Forbes): 114-114 draw

    Adam Abramowitz (Ring Magazine and SN Boxing): 115-113 Golovkin

    Tom Craze (Bad Left Hook): 116-112 Golovkin

    Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow): 115-113 Golovkin

    The Associated Press: 114-114 draw

    Bill Simmons (HBO and The Ringer): 114-114 draw

    Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News): 116-112 Golovkin

    Michael Montero (MonteroOnBoxing): 115-113 Golovkin

    Matt Christie (Boxing News): 115-114 Golovkin

    George Willis (New York Post): 114-114 draw

    Below The Belt Podcast: 115-113 Golovkin

    World Boxing News: 115-113 Golovkin

    Jeff Powell (Daily Mail): 116-113 Golovkin









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  5. BCS8

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    LOL your hero got painted by Mayweather so sorry.

    I hear on the anniversary of that loss they serve tear-flavoured ice cream in Guadalajara
     
  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL so you're scoring rounds entirely based on compubox numbers, and lecturing me on how it was so easy to score. Wow, great argument. So according to you, all we gotta do is just look at punch stat numbers for how to score rounds. Brilliant, who needs judges anyway, lets just let the compubox guys determine who wins. You're the one playing the Compubox card, unlike you I actually watched the rounds and know what happened in them.

    And by the way, you're looking at the wrong compubox numbers lmao. You're citing the compubox numbers from the rematch and trying to apply them to the first fight. wow you're totally clueless. We're talking about the first fight brianiac, you know the fight where Byrd scored it 10-2 lol. So while you're making a complete fool out of yourself lecturing me on how to score rounds based on compubox numbers, you're not even looking at the compubox numbers from the fight we're talking about!

    I can't respond to any more of your post until you realize you're looking at the compubox numbers from the rematch and trying to apply them to the first match lol.
     
  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Great comeback, now I'm being lectured by Mendoza about how to score the first match based on compubox numbers, compubox numbers from the rematch that is lmfao.
     
  8. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Scoring rounds is easy. Whomever lands more, has more effect when it lands, and better ring generalship ( Canelo was often in retreat ) wins. Defense is naturally built in by avoiding punches. I might have to check your other cards to see if your scoring is way off on other matches.

    Nothing is wrong with Punch stats. They correctly call the winer more often than than crooked judges do, for example were saw a BS draw call in Canelo vs Mayweather 11-4-114 and 118-110 card in Canelo vs GGG. Neither is defensible. Notice a pattern?

    I use punch stats to expose frauds, and lousy judging on obvious rounds to " Dr. " their score cards and say so and so wins. For example if you think Canelo won round 4, when he out landed 22-14, losing the jab battle and the power punch battle, I've got a bridge to sell you. Now I see your losing ability to be civil. Go ahead and post round 4 for us to score with a poll as to who wonif you dare.

    You remain on in an island by yourself with your " Scorecard " as I showed you with many others listed. That much was proven. Byrd, and the other judge who was at least smart enough to call it close forced the draw for Canelo are iffy at best. You are way to the left of them. You don't think it was close. I see an 8-4 with careful wording on you part is what you wrote. Okay, see right through you I do. By the way I saw the flight and score it live. Actually I have seen out 3 times. GGG won it. Anyone who thinks Canelo won it probably does not now show to score a fight, greatly dislikes GGG or thinks Canelo is some sort of Mexican demi god.

    What was your score card by the way in Canelo vs Mayweather? Can to let me know?
     
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  9. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    If i watch it again, I'll let you know
     
  10. BCS8

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    Aren't you one of the volunteers that donates their tears to Canelo's ice cream shop for that flavour?
     
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  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Compubox numbers you are citing for round 4 are from the REMATCH. You are looking at the wrong Compubox Data. GGG clearly won Round 4 in the REMATCH and Compubox had him outlanding Canelo in Round 4 of the rematch 23*-14.

    In Round 4 of the First Match the Compubox #s were much closer with GGG having the Edge 18-13, but with Canelo having a much higher connect % 40.6% - 29.5%. Please realize you were looking at the Compubox #s for the rematch in error thinking you were looking at the Compubox #s from the first match, and you were using the wrong punch stat data to argue who won rounds in the first match lol.
     
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  12. 15Hosier2004

    15Hosier2004 I tell people what they do not want to hear Full Member

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    who acc wants to fight him? ik charlo dont , he may say it but he is clout chasing as usual
     
  13. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Looks like Mungia is off the table he is fighting Sulecki in April
     
  14. IsaL

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    How do you know he doesn't?
     
  15. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Take the risk or lose the chance Full Member

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    Has he still not decided canelo already fought like three times literally the **** that pisses me off you're a fighter ****ing fight