Who do you think has the better win resume between Wilder and Whyte?

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  1. JDub

    JDub Active Member Full Member

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    Meh, personally I don’t rate the Luis Ortiz Wilder beat, he looked old and sluggish before and after he fought wilder, but if you do rate him you have a point. For me Whyte’s wins over Parker and now Rivas with a couple of wins over Del Boy trumps a victory over Luis Ortiz, and a victory over stiverne (if that’s your second best win as a champion it’s not a good look).
     
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  2. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whyte apparently thought he was a boogeyman ... turned down an eliminator against him — basically saying “I’ll wait my turn no matter how long it takes rather than fight that beast.”
     
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  3. Gomo

    Gomo Active Member Full Member

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    Stupid question.

    Whyte has the better resume clearly.

    And Ortiz isn't the best win, he's shot to bits, he only looked good against wilder because wilder is garbage and made szpilka look a slick fighter....
    Ortiz has looked average since he lost to wilder.
    Rivas, Parker and probably chisora would all chin ortiz
     
  4. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LOOOOL.... yeah okay totally don't go into detail at how shite every one of Wilder's opponents were...absolutely delusional.

    -Browne -
    **** fighter but more deserving of being a world champion than Stiverne (okay, if you take away the drugs cheat bit lol, but how many drugs cheats are there in boxing?!?! Mike Tyson, Holyfield, Canelo?! bet you have admiration for some of them), beat an old chagaev but far better than any of Stiverne's wins, especially his world title win
    -Parker- the headbutt was dodgy no doubt but Parker was on his feet, and had good balance throughout the fight, so your concussion allegation just seems a bit manufactured...nevertheless, Whyte dominated the tale of the fight. Parker is elusive, and can be powerful when he unloads on an opponent there not to just survive...despite the controversy this win is better than any of Wilder's wins....Ortiz? really? Really? One he is old and actually had high blood pressure and two despite his amateur pedigree, can't avoid right hands for ****...Ortiz best win was Jennings, and even slow motion Joe managed to scrape a win against Jennings (styles make fights yes, but someone that slow and you can't out manouevre considering Jennings is supposedly slick)
    -Chisora- Chisora is always a tough fight (unless you're Fury/Vlad), as we saw in his 2 round domination of spzilka (let me guess, he was never the same after Wilder). The Chisora/Whyte fight was close, but you cannot say Chisora won that definitively, Whyte was doing the much cleaner work where Chisora was just roughing and toughing him. The second fight Whyte was constantly catching Chisora with some surprising right hands and timed him with the left hook. The whole ref ruined the fight conspiracy theory is just honestly a load of bullocks.
    -Helenius - did look **** tbh, but a win over a B/B- name
    -Rivas - I do not know what fight any of these Americans were watching but this was not a close fight at all. Whyte dominated with the jab alone, I can't believe anyone can give four rounds to Rivas. For absolutely what? Most of his work was taken on the arms and elbows when he couldn't find the head at all. Went in the 9th round for desperate KO and landed a lovely uppercut. Dillian came back strong in the next round making Rivas his *****. There were 20 seconds in that round when Whyte went weird, he was not hurt wtf, there were some low blows and elbow going in there, ref has every right to go in and break it up - you guys literally come up with anything to suit your narrative.. if you honestly thought whyte would have been KOd if the ref hadn't jumped in, you're seriously deluded
     
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  5. Davo

    Davo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can keep pushing the issue, but Whyte's resume is terrible when you factor in the controversy and performances surrounding his wins. He rarely wins a fight clearly and always relies on incredibly biased refereeing. Even so, his resume is still much worse than Wilder's. His only big win is Parker coming off a loss. That's nothing to write home about. Wilder has a **** poor resume for a long time champ but lets not get carried away with this Dillian Whyte BS.
     
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  6. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dillian Whyte's resume is actually pretty solid, regardless of the insigificant controversy. ....Wilder resume is honestly not on Whyte's level. Parker and Rivas are far better wins than Ortiz/Stiverne/Breazeale...I still think Wilder brutally KOs Whyte though...but Whyte has a decent chance in the fight
     
  7. Davo

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    Parker was coming off his first loss and Rivas was completely unproven. They're not very good wins from a resume standpoint and Ortiz & Stiverne I are considerably better on paper IMO.
     
  8. It's Ovah

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    Wilder's resume isn't as awful as people like to make out, but it's pretty mediocre for his stage of career. Ortiz is clearly his best win, but Ortiz himself has a mediocre resume and made his rep almost solely by KOing Jennings after he went the distance with Wlad. Stiverne I was a decent win, and his first round KO of Breazeale was impressive. After that his resume consists of some mid-level guys like Washington, Duhaupas and Szpilka, and various lower level fighters like Molina, Firtha and faded Arreola and Lyakhovich. His Scott KO I don't count as it was blatantly a fix.

    Whyte now has two prime top guys on his resume in Parker and Rivas and two wins over a game AF Chisora (who's going through a bit of a late bloom). After that he has a win over an undefeated but poorly conditioned Browne (best win Chagaev), a past-prime Helenius, undefeated but incredibly limited Dave Allen, and then no one else really worth talking about.

    Going on recent run of form it's obvious who's superior, but taken overall it's a bit closer IMO.
     
  9. The Akbar One

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    How can you even count Parker as a top win for Whyte when the ref clearly influenced the outcome of the fight with his blown call on the headbutt early on. Wilder clearly has the better resume. Stiverne I, and Ortiz, trump anything on Whytes resume.
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Which win were you referring to?
    I feel Whyte has the better single win and resume
     
  11. Babality

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    It's close in names. But I think Wilder's is better if you look at the manner in which he beat them. For example, their best wins are obviously Ortiz and Parker, and KO'ing Ortiz was much more convincing.
     
  12. Mendoza

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    Whyte has the better Resume. Ortiz was old, and that's Wilder's best win.
     
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  13. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes. Why so amused? Consider Ortiz is considered by many to be Wilders best win, yet when he faced Allen it was when he was coming off a loss to Whyte and with many more fights under his belt
     
  14. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Read what I wrote... Win resume

    Whyte got beat by an undefeated prospect on the rise when he was that himself. Just imagine if Wilder had of taken such a big fight in his 17th fight instead of facing a CW with 15 losses. I dont think he would have done any better at that time
     
  15. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I dont think Ortiz was better than Browne or Parker. Not sure it was better than Rivas really