Who do you think has the better win resume between Wilder and Whyte?

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  1. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I read what you wrote but I’m pointing out it’s a joke if it doesn’t include the entire resume.

    Basically you’re saying ‘let’s deliberately ignore the absolute most important thing on his resume and judge as if it didn’t happen.’ You’re judging wins without considering the fact that he’s been KTFO and the other guy is undefeated (we can certainly debate the draw against Fury, but even if you choose to consider it a loss I’d say it’s a better loss than Whyte’s).

    Heck, Chisora has a better ‘win resume’ than some people who have beaten him ... does that make him better than them?
     
  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I love an agenda post...
    Lets ruin your answer

    With Browne you wrote
    So many feel Ortiz is Wilders best win and yet
    - Browne has a far greater win than any of Ortizs.
    - Browne is younger than Ortiz claims to be
    - Ortiz I read tested positive for a banned substance
    - Browne was a world champion. Ortiz never was. Browne has beaten a reigning champion. Ortiz hasnt

    Schooled you there already

    With Parker you wrote about him coming off his first loss as if it was a gruelling loss. It wasnt. Parker was outpointed by the then unified champion and lost on points without going down or taking too much punishment.
    Thing is. Wilder hasnt beaten as an accomplished HW as Parker even at that stage

    All of the above you mention for Wilder had not been as accomplished as Browne or Parker, also all of the above for Wilder had either suffered a stoppage defeat or would in arguably a more impressive fashion by another opponent soon after and I wouldnt bet against Rivas or Parker beating the above in question
     
  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Im not ignoring it. I responded to it and said about the loss at the time of the fight. That is you who chose to ignore that.
    Whyte took a bigger step up in his 17th fight than Wilder took in his first 40. Obviously with that a loss can happen.
    So now you put it that way, should Jones Jnr not get credit for beating Hopkins as Hopkins did lose his debut. Thats your logic there.
    Like you saying Ortiz shouldnt be rated above Rivas at the time of the Whyte fight as Ortiz had a loss when Rivas didnt

    Most of the notable wins Whyte has had have come after his loss and he has had many less fights than Wilder and after his loss has beaten arguably better comp than Wilder.
     
  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    The ref looked to me to call what he saw and what many others may have thought at the immediate moment.
    Many times a disputed KD gets called.

    What were the best wins for Ortiz and Stiverne?

    Parker has a win over Ruiz for example
    Browne has an away win over Chagaev

    Both look bigger wins to me than I feel Stiverne or Ortiz have
     
  5. Special one

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    Whyte over Wilder resume wise especially when you factor in both should have one loss on their records!!
     
  6. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Predicable............jumping from the the Bodybuilder now to "Bogeyman" Whyte......

    Resume did and dat.............the Bodybuilder , according to the same posters who are spouting off the usual non sense right here, had the best resume EVER, a unbeatable machine.........who got laid out and quit against a late fat sub picked to loose........resumes.....resumes

    Newsflash: If and when Wilder meets Whyte in the Ring it will be shocking to the same posters when Wilder levels the Walking Heavybag face first to the canvas unable to continue...............that fight has only one outcome........Whyte is getting starched............Whyte eats right hands for a living, you cannot miss even if you tried and I let you Einsteins figure out what Wilders best punch is.
     
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  7. yeyo monster

    yeyo monster Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ortiz right now kos the **** out of whyte!
     
  8. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    What makes you think that? Who is it that Ortiz kod that makes you think he would ko the **** out of Whyte
    Watching his fights with Scott and Kauffman, I don't think it would be easy for Ortiz to beat Whyte
    I would favour Whyte
     
  9. Simon Head

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    Whyte has beat more higher ranked fighters, and has the better win against Parker to Wilder’s Ortiz.

    Whyte and Wilder have both never beat the number one guy in the division at any time, so in reality they are both just contenders, and Whyte should be ranked higher.
     
  10. The Akbar One

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    Parker has a controversial win over Ruiz that many thought he lost. Browne had a win against a more than shopworn Chagaev. That isn't a better win than Ortiz's win over Jennings, or Stiverne's first win over Arreola.
     
  11. yeyo monster

    yeyo monster Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Man whyte is a ko in the happening!! Stop overrating him
     
  12. fidds

    fidds Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whyte is not the second coming but his resume craps all over Wilder's. If you don't realise this ydksab.
     
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  13. fidds

    fidds Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Question you have to ask yourself what would Wilder's record be if he had of fought whytes resume at the same time in his career as whyte did. For God's sake wilder was still fighting d level opponents at the stage whyte is at now.

    Just for clarity Wilder's 27 fight was vs Audley Harrison.
     
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  14. Can I box

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    On paper Wilder has a draw with Fury as well as still being unbeaten, Whyte’s best win vs Parker was very suspect as the ref let the home fighter get away with everything + headbutt shouldn’t have counted as a knockdown. Would have been a draw if not for that.

    Wilder beat a good Stiverne the first time out, Breazeale, Szpilka, Washington, Ortiz, Malik Scott, Molina, Areola and got a draw with Fury so I’d say Wilder tbh even though I love Whyte.
     
  15. Can I box

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    Not really
     
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