Who do you think is the best Crusierweight in the World?

He is not even in my top 10.

 

Of course he is.....post your top 10

 

well it is quite relevant as it was used as a basis to say enzo mac is rubbish when clearly haye would do the same to the other fighters on the list.

 

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I already did. Next time read the whole topic before posting, thanks.

Give it as break. I never posted that and you cannot prove it unless you use a photo shop devise. You're just mad because I have pretty much ownd you in every topic that you have ever argued against me in, and now you see this and your taking advantage in this one, being people in the general are startin to hate me because im starting to pretty much be right in everything I say.

Please get lost. Im done with you. I will let you get the last word, I won't respond, because i have already proved myself against you.

TBH, Amsterdam needs to be back in this forum, you guys are just ridiculous.

:good

 

This is getting pathetic! Alexeev gets hammered by a fringe top 30 Cruiserweight, and youre saying he'd KO the top 10 guys?

Flores would do a number on Alexeev

 

Not to be a dick, but I think you have read it wrong.

Sorry tho, but anyways, you are still right in everthing you have said.


Its kinda funny I drank half a bottle of vodka and this English **** still can't type better than me. :good

 

He said Haye would KO all the top 10.

 

you couldn't own a one legged man in ass kick comp, everythread i have ever posted with in regards to you is full of polish idiots blindly hugging the nuts of all things polish.:verysad

 

your a ****ing idiot, learn how to read

 

sorry

TBH can't really see a case for any one of these fighters to be rated above Enzo, i assume you have Ramirez instead of Alexeev now.

A dominating win of Braithwaite is more impressive than any one of the wins these fighters have acheived IMO...BJ Flores is so incredibly overated its unreal!!!!

 

guillermo jones is the most dangerous

 

It is ok.

As you can see, this top 10 was made BEFORE the Alexeev ownage.

Reasons why I have rated these fights higher than Enzo:

Wlodarczyk

4 KO wins since his loss to USS Steve, who is a tough fighter with good ring aspects. Gave him a REALLY hard fight and also in retern the opponent gave Adamek a hard fight. In my honest opinion he would beat USS again in rematch, and even Adamek in a fight. Cunningham found his (Wlodarczyk's) style hard to deal with and REFUSED him a rematch. If anything, all these posters here demanding a Adamek - USS rematch, well... why the **** should he??

He didn't give my boy Diablo a rematch since Diablo gave him one, so tell me... why? Why is the Earth round? Why is marijuana illegal? Why does Bill Gates make them ****in computers? Why doesn't USS give Diablo a rematch?

Ridiculous.


Bottom line: He has a great chin, I know him personally, trust me, and im sure he can take Enzos shots easy tbh.
I give him a edge over Enzo anyday.


Flores

A win over Ding, which isn't saying much, but according to this forum a win over Ding means a win over God pretty much. It was funny seeing Flores beating Ding and seeing all the Ding fanboys bow down and make excuses of why he lost and even how he was robbed. :yep

Flores beat a top 5 cruiser at the time, and its a credit due to his book.

Bottom line: He proved himself against a hard puncher with DECENT boxing skills and showed good/basic skills in the ring to prove himself. I give him a edge over Enzo anyday.



Alexeev :

This post was made before he got his ass whooped. But if you want my opinion please tell so, because I have enough of this hype job and its time for him to go back to top 20.

Kraj

Lets face it, he seems very vornurable in the mid rounds, according to my assumption, but still, he guy fought a GREAT fight vs the Italian Fragomeni, and in my opinion it was the second best cruiser fight after Adamek - USS. Action packed and good punches by both. Kraj dominated the early rounds while Fragomeni went back and dominated the mid roundss to a brink of stoppage.

Bottom line:

This guy fought for a belt. And he fought well. Really well. Especially in Italy. Actually, I believe if this fight was in neutral territory I believe it would be even stevens.... and maybe Kraj would go on to stop the aging Fragomeni. Kraj had the tools, just not the crown nor the officials nor the arena.

Kraj is not great but he is good. I give him a edge over Enzo anyday.



Arslan

Ok the guy beat a HOF (Virgil Hill, I made this topic a while ago, HILL = HOF like it or not General Forum guys.)

Only reason why I have him on 10 is because he just RECENTLY held a title (WBA) and lost it. He seemed to me as a fighter with a good chin and SOME

decent boxing ability. I would have NEVER thought he would get his ass whooped by Jones. That was more of a shock than Vitali beating Peter or Maske beating Hill.

This is also why

2007 Comeback of the year: Henry Maske
2008 Comeback of the year: G. Jones

I give him a edge over Enzo almost anyday.

 

Cheers for the detailed response.

On Wlodarczyk i'll be honest i didn't see the Cunningham fights, i heard the 1st was a robbery but i'll take your word on that....looking forward to seeing him against fragomeni.

Flores - Enzo would smoke him, you know Ding isn't a top crusier really and any top contender should beat him fairly comfortably. If that is BJ Flores top win a No.7 ranking is totally unwarranted.

Kraj was on his way to losing in his fight with Fragomeni....no doubt about it. Again you think a few good rounds against a decent champ warrants a No.8 Ranking? Godfrey is pretty poor and that will show when Hide KOs him inside 4.

Arslan did get whooped by Jones....who is very good champion. But Maske did beat Hill after a 10 year layoff before Arslan beat him...nothing better than Enzos done.

and WTF Virgil Hill HOF!? But thats for another time :good

Enzo is top 10 material all day long....he got spanked by one of the best crusierweights in recent times...he still deserves to be there.

But hey........Adamek is NO.1 :deal

 

It wasn't a robbery. I don't know if you can trust me anyways but I had the fight 115 - 113 or around that. I think even more...For Diablo. But I had USS wining the rematch. Dunno by how much but id have to re-watch it.

I think the only reason why you thought it was a robbery was because Cunningham had a LOT of excuses and im sure you heared them all. He made Poland turn into a German like place lolz.

He began blaming everything. From his trainer, to the Polish food. He probably thought gołabki were pigeons . (google translate that if you don't understand)

I am really glad you are looking forward to the Wlodarczyk - Fragomeni fight. I would be pleased to hearing more thoughts to this fight anyways!

If you are interested, I have made 2 topic about the fights. One in Euro and one in General. If you are THAT interested here you can find them

Euro:

[url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116074[/url]

General:

[url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99756[/url]

I will be honest with you. I see this fight going 2 ways. Flores by points or Enzo by KO. I favor Enzo but by about 10 % more. But I still rank Flores higher....

Ding was no where near or warranted in the top 10, but the only basic reason why he was, was because of that fluke vs Nwodo. This fight would be 50/50 in my eyes. But this does not mean match up wise, I think Flore's win over Ding was worth the top 10 over anything Enzo has done recently tbh.

He was, but he showed good boxing skilled in rounds 1-3.

I personally think Fragomeni is underrated. I think Kraj deserves the ranking tbh. Frag gave Haye a pretty tough fight, even tho Haye won. But I thought it was nice and a bit competitive, more than the Mac fight anyways.


And if anyone who gives the previous CW champion a tough fight(Frag), the one who gave the current champion a though fight(Kraj), deserves at least a top 10. Just my thoughts.


He fought well even tho the premature stoppage.

That is also true, but a yes, it was a competitive fight in the beginning.

I ranked Arslan in the top 10 basically over his win over Hill (even tho) and Ding. Also his win over Brudov was better than pretty much anything Enzo did.

:thumbsup

But anyways, Hill is a HOF.

But lets leave this out now... we can discuss this in another topic.