Who do you think is the GOAT at Heavyweight?

12 world title fight wins (counting even fights with just 1 belt on the line)
Universally recognized champ for a year and a half. Of the other legit champs in his era (Spinks, Holyfield, Bowe, Moorer, Foreman, Lewis) he fought 3 of them. Went 1-3 against the other legit titlists that competed in his era. Only scratching a win over the one that used to compete at light heavyweight.
That really doesnt have all time GOAT written all over it, now does it. Were you trolling?

 

GOAT poll without Klitschko brothers? Move it to classic please.

 

Ali, the greatest boxer of all time.

 

Louis, he's just the most picture perfect puncher on film.

Ali fought better competition but Louis' record is also exceptional.

 

If you said Wlad should be in its OK he is not the best but he should maybe be here but Vitali has shitty record to be here!!!

 

I got Louis number one. 25 consecutive defenses shows incredible focus and he was the most skilled heavyweight ever in my opinion. I got no argument with anyone picking Ali, he fought the best comp over his career. Anyone other than these two in the one spot is ridiculous though.

 

Sugar Nikolai Valuev.
He had it all.

 

You`ve just confirmed to me that you don`t have a clue what`s going on.

Muhammad Ali took about 13 rounds off Terrell, he had no trouble at all dominating Ernie Terrell who was the same height as Lewis if not as heavy.

Ali was no small man, at his best he was around 215 lbs, he was also 6`3, with the movement & speed of a MW boxer, he is way too big to be bullied & too skilled & quick to be outboxed, especially by Lewis or the Klitschko`s. Most of the men that either beat or gave Lewis & the Klits their toughest fights were not too much bigger (if at all) than Ali & nowhere near as tough mentally, conditioned physically or skilled.

You`re extremely confused & delusional if you believe Ali at his best couldn`t handle these `evolved` HWs... he`s flat out better than all of them... **** sake a 45 year old George Foreman came back in the 90s to win a HW title so enough with the `evolved` shite, if anything Lewis size would severely hinder him vs an elite athlete with sublime movement, speed & technique of Ali`s level... maybe a fighter like Frazier & his style would play into Lewis hands but Muhammad Ali is a terrible match-up for Lewis, especially with his versatility & adaptability.

Ali would outbox Lewis & both Klitschko`s prime for prime, you need to do your homework son.

 

Got beat by an awkward German dude, was fed a series of bums as opponents to prop his championship for wartime propaganda reasons. Moved like his feet were stuck in concrete. HUGELY overrated.

 

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he could even break your hand with his face

 

Joe Louis

1934
Lee Rampage - No. 10

1935
Patsy Perroni - No. 6
Natie Brown - No. 10
Primo Carnera - No. 4
King Levinsky - No. 10
Max Baer - No. 1 Iii

1936
Charley Retzlaff - No. 4
Max Schmeling - No. 2 - LOSS
Jack Sharkey - No. 4
Al Ettore - No. 3
James Braddock - World Champion
Tommy Farr - No. 3

1938
Nathan Mann - No. 3
Max Schmeling - No. 1

1939
John Henry Lewis - World Champion at Light-Heavyweight
Tony Galento - No. 3
Bob Pastor - No. 2

1940
Johnny Paychek - No. 5
Arturo Godoy (2) - No. 1

1941
Red Burman - No. 4
Buddy Baer - No. 5
Billy Conn - World Champion at Light-Heavyweight
Lou Nova - No. 1

1942
Buddy Baer - No. 4
Abe Simon - No. 6

1946
Billy Conn - No. 1
Tami Mauriello - No. 1

1947
Jersey Joe Walcott - No. 1

1948
Jersey Joe Walcott - No. 1

1950
Ezzard Charles - World Champion - LOSS

1951
Lee Savold - No. 4
Cesar Brion - No. 8
Rocky Marciano - No. 3 - LOSS

Overall record: 69-3
Overall record vs. top 10 opposition (incl. 2 light-heavyweight champs): 30-3

....

Muhammad Ali

1962
Alejandro Lavorante - No. 10
Archie Moore - No. 5

1963
Doug Jones - No. 3
Henry Cooper - No. 9

1964
Sonny Liston - World Heavyweight Champion

1965
Sonny Liston - No. 1
Floyd Patterson - No. 1

1966
George Chuvalo - No. 9
Henry Cooper - No. 4
Karl Mildenberger - No. 3
Cleveland Williams - No. 3

1967
Ernie Terell - No. 1
Zora Folley - No. 2

1970
Jerry Quarry - No. 1
Oscar Bonavena - No. 3

1971
Joe Frazier - World Heavyweight Champion - LOSS
Jimmy Ellis - No. 7

1972
Mac Foster - No. 6
Jerry Quarry - No.2
Floyd Patterson - No.3
Bob Foster - World Light-Heavyweight Champion

1973
Joe Bugner - No. 8
Ken Norton - No. 9 - LOSS
Ken Norton - No. 2

1974
Joe Frazier - No. 1
George Foreman - World Heavyweight Champion

1975
Chuck Wepner - No. 9
Ron Lyle - No. 8
Joe Bugner - No. 4
Joe Frazier - No. 2

1976
Jimmy Young - No. 3
Ken Norton - No. 2 - LOSS

1977
Ernie Shavers - No. 5

1978
Leon Spinks - No. 9 - LOSS
Leon Spinks - World Heavyweight Champion

1980
Larry Holmes - Wolrd Heavyweight Champion - LOSS

1981
Trevor Berbick - No.7 - LOSS


Overall record: 55-6
Record vs. top 10 rated opponents (incl. Light-Heavyweight Champion): 31-6

 

Joe Louis

Accomplished the most, most relevant to the sport, and best victories...

 

lennox...followed by ali,loius and the klitschkos

 

the man who in his prime would beat anybody. lennox.
the man who fought so greatly, the reason why he is the greatest. ali.