Well, again, i'm not interested in an era on era debate about opposition. What i'm interested in is a fighter's meeting and performing against the best or second best (Especially) fighter of his era. There will generally be numerous opportunities to do so. With Vitali, it's different because he had his brother, so we look instead against the second and third best (Excepting himself) when one slot is taken by his bro. Vitali's record: 0-2. Utterly pitiful. You want to compare him to Liston. OK. Beat the best contender excepting himself to get his title shot and then beat the best heavy in the world to win the title then thrashed a top contender in his first defence. You want to say that the second is overrated and the first isn't.