Who does better against the following, Jeffries or Sullivan?

Jeez you don’t make a thread easy, do you!? I have always wanted to see Jeffries in with a guy like Frazier, personally. He’s mysterious to rate for me, I am not completely sold on those who laud him or those who deride him.

But truthfully, I regard Dempsey as someone right on the edge of a fair match with more modern fighters. Once you start talking about things like 45-rounders in blazing heat, 2 oz gloves & refs who let the fighters kill each other vs 12-rounders in air conditioned arenas with trigger-happy officials, 10 oz gloves…there’s a reason you’re not getting replies beyond just member ignorance. It’s very, very difficult to fairly compare across eras that vast.

All I could say personally is I’d be very, very keen to see Jeffries in with these guys, as there is no doubt to Sullivan’s greatness.

 

Very difficult to say.

In general terms I would say that Sullivan was the better finisher of the two, but that Jeffries was significantly bigger and stronger.

Sullivan was a seek and destroy closer and finisher, while Jeffries was a hybrid counter puncher and pressure fighter.

They both obviously took a punch very well.

That is what we have to try and make sense of here.

 

Stylistically yes, but could they mix it up with these men, who are at the highest level historically? You would need to hybridise the ruleset first. When the sport changes this much, it would be fight-deciding to place one completely in the others’ age.

 

Dempsey: I suspect that Jeffries crouching counterpunching style allows him to get through a bit too often. It might be better to send in Sullivan and pray that he gets Dempsey first in the inevitable train crash.

Louis: Sullivan likely gets his brains scrambled coming in, but Jeffries crouch might give him some problems.

Liston: Very bad match ups for Sullivan's come forward style, but Jeffries would at least be a match for him in strength, and this would give him something to work with.

Foreman: Same observations as with Liston.

Frazier: The best way to fight Frazier is not to let him get out of first gear, and Sullivan is a faster starter than him, or Jeffries.