Who does Haye have a better chance against?

vit

 

chagaev.

 

Glass chin or iron chin :huh

 

Vitali.

 

Dominant, actual world champion or ageing plodder? :deal

I reckon it's a close one but Haye would probably lose to either.

 

Vitali; older, slower, potential to cut up.

 

Vitali TBH, although i think he should fight both anyway, should definatley take the chance with Vitali especially now he offered him a chance one again!

G

 

Wlad's whiskers suggests he's the best option.

However, from what I've seen of the brothers, Wlad still has speed. His hands arent as fast as Haye's but he's much better at dictating the distance between the fighters. he can make a yard of space between him and his opponent in a split second. That makes him hard to hit. Haye is not hard to hit. Never has been really. Despite all his talk of "I may look easy to hit until you're in the ring with me", Mormeck, Ruiz and even Barrett managed to land on Haye. He's not as elusive as he likes to think. Wlad's rapier jab could (and will) get through. Question then is whether Haye's chin can hold up.

Vitali is historically the better of the two. But is getting old. And on recent form, is much slower. He's also had the weaker opposition of the two in his last few outings.

For me, the advantage of Wlad is that it only takes one punch. But Wlad is much cuter these days. And it's his foot speed that gives him the edge.

Vitali is only getting older. I would expect Haye to be able to get in and out of Vit much easier. Haye cant win this fight though by adopting the same tactics he did against Valuev. He was able to keep that up for 12 rounds because he didn’t have to throw many shots. Against Vit, he will have to throw a lot to win the round. He will have to mix it up. Run for a round, counter for a round, get inside that long reach and rough him up, then get out before getting hit. But he's beatable on recent form.

Wlad is certainly beatable, but I reckon Wlad can outbox Haye. So Haye would be relying on that one shot. Which he may or may not land. Whereas I think he may be able to box his way to victory over Vit.

Either way, he has his work cut out.

 

Which strength/weakness I think will matter the most:
- against Vitali I think it's mostly down to either Haye's speed advantage or his stamina disadvantage. i.e. if Haye can land easily enough due to his speed advantage and stay out of trouble without gassing then Haye should win. However, Vitali will make him fight and could well wear him out and get a mid/late stoppage.
- against Wlad it's a probably a matter of who can take the other's punches.

On that basis, I find it easier to visualise Haye beating Vitali, but even that is no guarantee.

Captain Obvious.

 

It is clearly Wladimir, because he has serious vulnerabilities in his chin and his inability to fight on the inside. The Steward Wladimir has been able to cover up these vunerabilities but if he is tagged the chin aint for changing.

I still believe that Wladimir if consistent with his game plan would win easily, however he cannot change these two key weaknesses. His weaknesses are far more costly than Vitali's.

Vitali although less consistent with the jab, and less physically reliable has an iron chin and a fighting heart. Vitali would cause Haye alot of pain and stop him.

 

Wlad for me. Vitali may not be as fast but he still throw an incredible amount of punches for a HW. I cannot see Haye outpointing either guy but he has the better chance of leveling Wlad.

 

Vitali. Reckon Wlad knocks him the **** out tbh.

 

davey will beat em both man, might not be easy but i firmliy belive dave will have the edge over the pair of klits.

youth, speed, power, punches from all angles, all out flurrys of shot, and when that hayemaker lands the floodgates will be well and truely open.

 

Vitali. He is slow, old, can't punch very hard, has a history of giving up, cuts in a breeze and his chin can have only of gotten worse. He hasn't been hit since Sanders and when he was got buzzed a fair few times. I could see him having a shocker against Haye.