Who does Haye have a better chance of beating Vitali or Wlad?

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  1. Martini643

    Martini643 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Haye has a stronger chance knocking out Wlad as opposed to Vitali. Even with Vitali's age, I think his style matches up better than Wlad's will.
     
  2. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    exactly what i have been saying, great post...haye has a better chance against wlad, then ruslan does...its that simple, styles make fights.

    and haye does have a better chance to beat wlad then vitali.
     
  3. GDG

    GDG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wlad without a doubt.
     
  4. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Vitali.

    He's far slower, flat-footed and technically inferior to Wlad in every way. Haye has a better chance of landing on his chin, even if he doesn't knock him out.

    Wlad is the far, far better fighter technically, he's got a much quicker and better jab, more power, much, much better timing on his shots and he's more mobile and better offensively.
     
  5. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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  6. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    TOTALLY AGREE! not to mention Vitali is Old and his reflexes are even slower now than usual
     
  7. MemoCan

    MemoCan *****49ers Express***** Full Member

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    Exactly.
     
  8. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Vitali vs Haye would be murder. That fight should not even be sanctioned. Vitali would brutally shatter Hayes Glass Jaw.
     
  9. TommyV

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    If Haye faced Vitali, I would back Haye because he's British but also because I think he may have a genuine chance.

    I backed Haye against Wlad soley because he was British. And I was actually wavering on my prediction because I said I was going to stop being bias and pick the guys who I thought would win.

    Realistically, Haye was never going to get inside the jab, and Wlad was never going to miss with the right hand. It could of been over inside 3 rounds.
     
  10. Armo_Ruski

    Armo_Ruski best of da best Full Member

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    ummm u do member that uppercut vitali took from lennox lewis in there fight, yes??? i dont care how many years ago it was, u really think little guy haye would be able to hurt vitali in terms of dropping him??? his best bet is against wlad simply cuz we've seen wlad go down. never seen vitali get dropped. btw LL woulda murdered haye 2. :D:good:bbb
     
  11. TommyV

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    I didn't say Haye would knock him out. But he could get Vitali pulled or win a decision. Speed kills, Haye has it in abundance. Wlad is pretty quick aswell, Vitali has the hand speed of a hippo with arthitis. His timing of his punches is also woeful. And he has no movement whatsoever.
     
  12. Martini643

    Martini643 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :good Vitali's chin has stood up to the likes of Lewis' brutal uppercut, and hard lefts by Sanders.. I don't think Haye has the power to KO Vitali. Vitali imo would win a decision just by using his jab and reach to his advantage.
     
  13. darkness

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    Wlad is alot easier for haye to beat because he has a paper chin.
     
  14. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    Haye is a natural counter-puncher. I don't think he is an effective aggressor. He wants to catch you with something big when your off balance. Problem is the Klits set everything up with their jab. He has very good handspeed early and good hw power but that's not a good style to have against the Klits especially when u have a low punch outpurt, weak punch resistance and questionable hw stamina.

    I think he has a very small chance early against wlad if klit does something stupid and no chance barring an injury against Vitali.

    Haye's best move is to heal up completely and start getting active even if it's against complete bums. He has to better adjust to that extra weight imo. the lack of activity is gonna end up hurting him. I want to see how his stamina holds up in the later rounds
     
  15. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Vitali is the tougher fight. This is due primarily because of his ability to take punishment. Haye lands many power punches, but he will get tired and then Vitali would take over. The way for Haye to beat Vitali is to be patient and use speed, but Haye is not patient. Haye is reckless, and always goes for the kill. It would be his undoing against Vitali. (unless Vitali gets really old overnight)

    If Haye lands power punches on Wlad, Wlad gets flustered and Haye wins. Wlad does not like getting pressured, Wlad does not like it unless someone stands still in front of him and eats jabs. Haye would not do that. I'm not saying Haye is a favorite against Wlad, he's not. Wlad still holds all the advantages, but Haye does have the tools to pull off the upset.