Who does Jerry Quarry beat more decisively?

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Who takes more of a beating?

  1. Mike Tyson

  2. Rocky Marciano

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  1. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    here were no knockdowns, but Holmes dominated the fight and was given every round by all three judges. Holmes won through a technical knockout after Ali's trainer Angelo Dundee stopped the fight after the tenth round
    Ali weighed in at 217½ pounds, his lightest weight since he defeated George Foreman on October 30, 1974 because he lost his mucle mass!
    Holmes did have mery but he really tried to knock him out while Ali survived much more dangerous punchers than light hitting Holmes!
    He cried because he beaten him not because he did not knocked him out!
    Holmes got KO d by Tyson?Grampa Holmes who was fat,outshape,40 years old and 2 years layoff and was sick!He also took a fight on 2 weeks notice!He lost his speed and mobility and still Holmes was outboxing him until round 5 where Holmes was gassed!
    Holmes from 1978 would beat Tyson in Douglas style!
     
  2. SerbianLoudmouth

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    My hero unlike Morrison did not use the same tactic!He was more mobile and never turn back on Foreman and was never hurt!And that was prime stronger Foreman!
    Ali also unlike Morrison catches Foreman in 3rd round with strongest punch he ever threw and that was overhand which schocked Foreman!
     
  3. Johnny_B

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    You are the CLUELESS one the STUPIDEST poster on this forum. Your stupidity knows no boundaries.
    Only someone as stupid and clueless as you could say that Holyfield won the first time he fought Lewis.
    And Frazier at his best weighed around 205, while Tyson weighed around 218. Tyson was the bigger man weight wise, they were never the same as you claim.
     
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  4. Shahpoor Saiq

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    The guy even thinks that Tyson didn't have a shitty life and says young Tyson was lazy jajaja.
     
  5. Johnny_B

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    Yea, he's completely clueless.
     
  6. SerbianLoudmouth

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    Muhammad Ali 224 lbs beat Joe Frazier 215 lbs by RTD at 3:00 in round 14 of 15
    George Foreman 218 lbs beat Joe Frazier 214 lbs by TKO at 2:26 in round 2 of 15
    George Foreman 224 lbs beat Joe Frazier 224 lbs by TKO at 2:26 in round 5 of 12
    Joe Frazier 212 lbs beat Jerry Quarry 198 lbs by TKO at 1:37 in round 5 of 10

    CLUELESS,STUPIDEST...and other things you troll you can put in your mothers arse for sure!
    Only someone stupid as you do not know that Holyfield beat Lewis even knowing it was a draw even then Holyfield was clear winner!
    Tyson was not bigger,Joe was!Tyson was like what 2-3 lbs heavier which is nothing but Frazier was bigger man!
    Frazier
    Height 5 ft 11 1⁄2 in (182 cm)[1]
    Reach 73 in (185 cm)
    Tyson
    Height 5 ft 10 in (178 cm)[1][2]
    Reach 71 in (180 cm)
    I proved that if anyone is clueless,stupid... is you!I put you with facts down and I will put you every time!
    SON YOU ARE STUPID AS DEEK!
     
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  7. SerbianLoudmouth

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    Tyson was not lazy?
    Only in stupid mind of your Tysonites!
    Tyson was fat boy who did not work and was lazy!Also he did not earn money but steal from other normal people and just smoked marihuana!
    Foreman,Frazier,Liston......worked on farm very hard and on fields day and night!They faced poverty,barely make to eat and they faced racism on south!
    And you are trying to say me that Tyson was hard worker?
     
  8. Shahpoor Saiq

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    This guy :I bro have you ever watched a documentary or read his book?
     
  9. SerbianLoudmouth

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    Bro I watched many documentaries about him and books!
    He was lazy man who never worked any job in his life,was overweight kid and was ******!
     
  10. Johnny_B

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    What part of "Frazier at his best" don't you understand, you clueless delusional fool ?!?
    Frazier's peak was from around 1967 to around 1971.
    1967 - Joe Frazier 205 lbs beat Doug Jones 188 lbs by KO at 2:28 in round 6 of 10
    1967 - Joe Frazier 205 lbs beat George Chuvalo 217 lbs by TKO at 0:16 in round 4 of 10
    1968 - Joe Frazier 205 lbs beat Buster Mathis 243 lbs by TKO at 2:33 in round 11 of 15
    1968 - Joe Frazier 203 lbs beat Oscar Bonavena 207 lbs by UD in round 15 of 15 (second meeting)
    1969 - Joe Frazier 203 lbs beat Jerry Quarry 198 lbs by RTD at 3:00 in round 7 of 15 (first meeting)
    1971 - Joe Frazier 205 lbs beat Muhammad Ali 215 lbs by UD in round 15 of 15

    You gave examples of a past prime Frazier. Using your stupid logic, I'll also give some examples of a past prime Tyson:
    2002 - Lennox Lewis 249 lbs beat Mike Tyson 234 lbs by KO at 2:25 in round 8 of 12
    2003 - Mike Tyson 226 lbs beat Clifford Etienne 223 lbs by KO at 0:49 in round 1 of 10
    2004 - Danny Williams 265 lbs beat Mike Tyson 233 lbs by KO at 2:51 in round 4 of 10
    Tyson was way past his best in all of these fights and his ideal weight was never over 220.

    Weight is the most important factor, and that's what is used to determine boxing categories, not reach or height. Liston had an very big reach compare to his height, something like 83-84 inch, yet that does not make him bigger than Ali or Foreman.
    Tyson at his best was around 13 to 15 pounds heavier than Frazier at his best.

    No, you're the only one that thinks Holyfield won that first fight when everybody else that saw that fight could clearly see Lewis was robbed bigtime. He dominated that fight and won by a long margin. Your roided cheat won 4 rounds at best.
    Here's what the commentators said:
    "That's a travesty. That is, Ladies and Gentlemen, a travesty, an outrage, a highway robbery, Lennox Lewis has just been robbed of the heavyweight championship of the world. He won it and he didn't get it."
    Everybody could see that, only a MORON like you thinks otherwise.
     
  11. Johnny_B

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    Up until Cus died, Tyson was anything but lazy. He was focused on boxing and trained hard. Even after Cus died, he was still training ok with Rooney. Only after he fired Rooney, he stopped training hard.
    And he never raped that *****.
    You are just a Tyson hater.
     
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  12. Shahpoor Saiq

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    Listen here so Desiree Washington went in Tysons limo at 2 am and kissed and cuddled with him then went to his hotel room kissed and cuddled some more after they were done kissing she went into the bathroom and removed her panty shield. Tyson also gave her oral sex man. WHO gives someone oral sex when they **** someone? She said she screamed and hit him but he didn't have any sign of bruising and no one heard her scream in the hotel. She also went past someone leaving the hotel but didn't tell that person to call the police or ask for help. She had also falsely accused her past boyfriend of **** so it's up to decide if Tyson really did **** her.
     
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  13. SerbianLoudmouth

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    Frazier was not past his prime until 1974!AGAIN ONLY CLUELESS AND DELUSIONAL HERE IS YOU!
    Frazier peak was between 1969-1973/1974 and again you pick early fights where he was skinny!
    Joe Frazier 218 lbs beat Ron Stander 218 lbs by RTD at 3:00 in round 4 of 15
    Joe Frazier 218 lbs beat Joe Bugner 221 lbs by PTS in round 12 of 12
    Mike Tyson 214 lbs beat Hector Mercedes 200 lbs by TKO at 1:47 in round 1 of 4

    Mike Tyson 215 lbs beat Sammy Scaff 250 lbs by TKO at 1:19 in round 1 of 10
    In some bouts Tyson was 212lb!
    I gave examples of prime Frazier at 30 years old where he was in his prime!Tyson was very old and very fat against those guys while Frazier never looked fat against anyone even when he was 220lb!
    Frazier never fought that old to see how fat he would be without shape he could be 240lb very easy!He was 220lb before he came into boxing!
    Frazier
    Height 5 ft 11 1⁄2 in (182 cm)[1]
    Reach 73 in (185 cm)
    Tyson
    Height 5 ft 10 in (178 cm)[1][2]
    Reach 71 in (180 cm)
    I proved that if anyone is clueless,stupid... is you!I put you with facts down and I will put you every time!
    SON YOU ARE STUPID AS DEEK!

     
  14. SerbianLoudmouth

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    Weight is important but size is even more important!Liston was not tall but was bigger man,longer hands and wider shoulders than Ali!
    So you wanna say me that Tua who was 240lb or Bowe who was 240 were bigger than Liston because they were heavier even knowing Liston was taller,better reach and wider shoulders?Holyfield was bigger man than Tyson but he was not so heavy!
    Tyson at his best was 218 and Frazier was 214 which is what 4 inches and you as Tyson stupid fan increased that for 15 pounds?
    So Louis was not heavier than Liston in his prime but was also bigger man!
     
  15. SerbianLoudmouth

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    Round 1 - Holyfield
    Lewis lands a good jab flush and a decent 1-2 in the first minute. Holyfield lands a decent jab to Lewis chest. Halfway through the round Holyfield whacks Lewis to the side of the head 3 times. Lewis uppercut misses on Holyfield's right glove though the announcers say it hit Holyfield. With 45 seconds to go in the round Holyfield lands a nice 2 punch combo on the inside and then they clinch (ref Halpern makes it tough to see it though). Holyfield again jabs to the chest. Again evident that Holyfield's jab is more effective, at least in this round. Holyfield is the one pushing the fight, coming forward, trying to engage. I know scoring round 1 this way might be controversial since all 3 judges gave it to Lewis, but honestly everytime I have watched this fight I have given round 1 to Holyfield - even the first 2 times where I scored the fight 8-4 Lewis I still gave round 1 to Holyfield. Again the key here is that Holyfield is the effective aggressor in the round.

    Round 2 - Lewis
    Clear round for Lewis. Goods jabs and a good uppercut in the first minute by Lewis. Holyfield not punching much here. Lewis the aggressor in the round, unlike round 1. Good jab and uppercuts again by Lewis. Good jabs by Holyfield to the body, and a pretty good left hook to Lewis's body. Good 1-2 by Lewis. Decent left hook. Good round for Lewis - clearly his round, Lewis's jab was much more effective here and he landed those uppercuts.

    Round 3 - Holyfield
    Lewis missing a lot of punches initially. But good jab and uppercuts again 40 seconds into the round by Lewis. Good triple jab by Holyfield halfway through. Decent jabs by Lewis. Slight edge to Lewis so far in the round. Excellent overhand right by Holyfield, biggest flush shot in the round so far. Holyfield whacks Lewis a couple times at the end of the round. I gave the round to Evander due to the quality of his punches. Again a close round though. But Holyfield had the more telling blows and was more the aggressor in round 3.

    Round 4 - Lewis
    Neither one landing really anything in the first 35 seconds. Holyfield lands a good counter right hand. A couple of jabs by Lewis. Nice jab by Lewis 1 minute 20 seconds in. Some more solid jabs by Lewis. Good right hand by Lewis near the end of the round.

    Round 5 - Even
    Not a big round for Lewis like Lampley says it is (I like Lampley but I disagree with him about this round). Great left hook by Holyfield, maybe the most flush shot in the fight. Right right hand by Lewis but doesn't land flush despite Lampley's insistence "a big right hand." Holyfield comes back with a left hook. Lewis lands another good right hand. Uppercut, some jabs by Lewis. Decent left hook by Holyfield. Holyfield comes back with a left to the body. Good jab by Holyfield. Holyfield coming forward. Good left to the body by Holyfield. I scored it an even round, Lewis threw more punches but Holyfield was the aggressor in the round going after Lewis and had the best punch in the round early in the round. Very close round though. Even round.

    Round 6 - Holyfield
    Good, effective jabs by Holyfield. Much more active than Lewis at this point. Lewis gets in an uppercut. But good left to the head by Evander. 1-2combo by Lewis. Right hand by Lewis. Holyfield clearly the aggressor in the round so far. Attempted some big looping overhand rights that missed but still hitting his jabs. Not much activity from Lewis here. More good jab work by Holyfield. Good round for the Real Deal.

    Round 7 - Holyfield
    I wish more of their rounds was like this one. Best round of their 2 fights. Lewis nice combinations to start out. Uppercut by Lewis. Strong left hook by Holyfield. Holyfield goes to the body. Lewis seems a bit rattled, perhaps hurt some by the left hook earlier. Lewis clinching. Good body shots by Holyfield. Great left hook by Holyfield, snapped Lewis's head back. Good right hand by Lewis. Strong right hand by Lewis. Great round. But Holyfield landed the more telling blows in this round. The short left hook bothered Lewis, and the left hook later on scored big too. Holyfield's round.

    Round 8 - Holyfield
    Right hand by Lewis. Good jabs by Holyfield. Not much happening though. Good left hook by Holyfield, backing Lewis up, best punch of the round by far. Lewis goes to the body some. Lewis seems a bit lazy here with his hands down. A couple jabs for Lewis. Both get a couple jabs to the body. Good jab by Holyfield. Solid uppercut by Lewis but not flush. Good left hook by Holyfield. Both trying to flurry at the end of the round. Amazingly close round, perhaps the closest of the fight, but I gave it to Holyfield because he landed the best punch of the round, the left hook 1 minute in, and he closed the round nicely with another left hook and then a right hand.

    Round 9 - Lewis
    Holyfield outjabbing Lewis to start the round. Good loopoing overhand right by Holyfield. Strong beginning by Holyfield in the first minute. Body shots by Lewis. Lots of clinching now. Good triple jab by Holyfield. Holyfield has won the first 2 minutes of the round. Another good left hook to the body by Lewis. Both going at it. Great uppercut by Lewis. Good combinations by Lewis. Lewis scoring some more. I like that they are both going after each other again, ala round 7. Holyfield flurries a bit at the end. I like the aggression both showed in the round. Another close round, I gave it to Lewis due to the uppercut being the best punch of the round. Could see this round being scored either way. Giampa scored it for Holyfield, and the other 2 scored it for Lewis.

    Round 10 - Lewis
    Some decent jabs by Lewis. Good 1-2 by Lewis. Holyfield trying to establish his jab some. Body punches by Lewis. Holyfield not punching much this round. Missing some. Good counter combo by Lewis. Another good combo punctuated by a good uppercut by Lewis. Two more good body shots by Lewis. Good left hook by Lewis. Lewis looking great this round. Lots of clean shots landed. More body shots by Lewis. Great round for Lewis. Scored a lot shots, and didn't get hit much.

    Round 11 - Lewis
    Good jabs by Lewis. Holyfield with a couple of rights. Good left by Holyfield. Both jabbing. Left hook by Lewis. More jabs from Lewis. Top notch left hook by Holyfield, best punch of the round so far. Good body shot by Holyfield. Lewis counters with a good body shot. Holyfield lands a very good counter right hand. Good combo by Lewis. Another combo by Lewis.
    I gave the round to Lewis because he was busier.

    Round 12 - Holyfield
    Great combination upstairs by Evander on Lewis. Holyfield lands some body shots on Lewis. Holyfield the agressor in this round so far. Left uppercut by Holyfield. More body attack by Commander Vander. Some jabs by Lewis. Not much activity from Lewis in this round so far. Another combo by Holyfield. Holyfield still going to the body. Solid right hand by Lewis. Clear round for Holyfield though, effective aggressor through out the round.

    So Holyfield takes it 115-114. 6 rounds to 5, 1 even.