Strong performance against, technically, a former world title challenger. Who does he fight next? I'd love to see him fight Whyte, or Parker for that matter. But I don't see Hearn letting Whyte near Ortiz now that he's primed for the AJ rematch, and Parker may not love the prospect of three losses in a row. Looking at the WBC rankings, the only ones reasonably high, who might be willing to fight Ortiz for whatever money that could bring and the (slim) hope of winning and securing a mandatory shot at the belt, are Charles Martin and Adam Kownacki. Hopefully itwill be at least a fringe contenderlike that and not someone like Cojanu again
Keep reading how Ortiz is an ancient fighter with a heart condition and crappy resume…But the top fighters are scared to death of fighting him…Even fans would rather see aj fight Whyte again rather than risk rumbling with Ortiz any time soon. I’m not sure he wouldn’t beat Wilder if they rematched…He will be avoided by the top fighters until they’re sure age catches up to him…Fans seem to be okay with that so who he fights next is anyone’s guess, just know it will be someone without much to lose…
Never won a world title, never beat anyone of note in the pros, will never win a world title either. Whyte would bury him. Would slaughter that flabby-dad body of his and KO him late.
Get the fight made then if it's that easy wouldn't you think? Whyte is a pudding with a tiny acorn shaped head.
Age has already caught up with him, he's 39 years old for Christ sake and looked poor prior to the Wilder fight. The idea he was avoided was a myth, fact is nobody cared who he was until a top contender in Jennings picked him as an opponent and got KO'ed. Did Jennings duck him? Clearly not, so the idea every top contender avoided him isn't true. How about Ustinov, guy tried to fight him twice but Ortiz ducked out of that fight that would of earned him mandatory status a year earlier than he eventually got it. He clearly ducked Ustinov which might of seen him fighting Wlad for the vacant WBA belt had he had the balls to fight Ustinov then. Why did he refuse to sign with Hearn. Hearn wanted it, he wanted a safety net should Ortiz beat Joshua when they actually fought. But Ortiz signed with Haymon and started negotiating a fight with Wilder even before he was named Joshua's mandatory. Why sign with Haymon to get Wilder but refuse to sign with Hearn to get Joshua? Pretty clear Ortiz decided to choose and easier path to the title. Fact is Ortiz could be fighting Joshua next instead of Povetkin had he not fought Wilder and not failed that test. Instead of making 500K for Wilder he could of made at least $5 mill for Joshua. And let's not forget people on this forum and other forums were saying Joshua would duck Povetkin just like people like you are saying he would duck Ortiz. Those people saying he was ducking Povetkin have now gone strangely silent, lol. Should Joshua have fought Ortiz instead of Wlad? Or perhaps he shouldn't of unified with Parker and fought Ortiz making everyone say he was ducking Parker. Maybe now you think he should drop his WBA belt, side step Povetkin and fight Ortiz.
There's no option for Wilder. I think that is who he fights next. Either that or a journeyman and then Wilder.
Ortiz's options are very limited. He's a good fighter but he's all risk low reward and he's garnered a reputation of people problematic to work with. His first promoter Greg Cohen sued him for breach of contract when Ortiz signed with Goldenboy. Ortiz then paid $1 mill to get out of his contract with Goldenboy after he twice ducked the Ustinov fight. I doubt Goldenboy would ever want to work with Ortiz again after Ortiz wasted their time with him. Rabinsky said that Ortiz was quote "problematic" to work with and this was just after the first time he ducked out of the Ustinov fight. God knows what he thinks after the 2nd time Ortiz ducked out of the Ustinov fight. I bet Rabinsky would never want to work with Ortiz again, so we can forget Povetkin/Ortiz ever happening. He refused to sign with Hearn and then signed with Haymon and started negotiating a fight with Wilder when Hearn had invested in building Ortiz's profile in the UK for a future Joshua fight. You think Hearn was happy about that, he gave him 2 paydays on 2 of his cards and then he jumped ship to a rival. No chance Hearn gives Ortiz any future paydays like Hearn has done with Whyte, Parker and Takam after they all fought Joshua. Then of course you have his doping issues and supposed high blood pressure. Why make a fight with someone so problematic? No guarantee he passes the doping tests or passes a medical to fight, always a risk he could fail to pass these tests and the fight falls through. Suffice to say having burned his bridges with a bunch of promoters, Ortiz's only options are that Haymon sets him up with one of his other top heavies. But with Breazeale likely fighting Wilder, the winner of Kownacki/Martin rumoured to be fighting Wilder after Breazeale and Miller fighting Joshua at some point, his options are limited. I fully expect Ortiz to fight another journeymen next. Maybe he'll get the loser of Kownacki/Martin. Maybe he'll get one of Haymon less high profile heavies like Hunter. But I don't expect Ortiz to be fighting anyone good anytime soon unless of course he gets a rematch with Wilder.
It's funny that somebody who is praising Whyte is talking about the body composition of another fighter Whyte is a fatty who is obviously eating **** all the time at KFC, McD and BK...otherwise he would look like Joshua as he is a gym rat and lifting weights for years lol ...he looks like the guy who is in the gym to train and afterwards going to BK or KFC to eat his ass off there. Ortiz definitely looks in better shape than Fatty Dillian And No, Ortiz would KTFO Whyte into retirement. Whyte swinging and swinging and Ortiz landing the brutal left hand right on the peanut head.
Exactamundo. W/O that promoter in his corner, how does he get ranked #1 again? And if he does finally get ranked that high, it still takes a long time to get wilder to sign. The only promoter willing to have anything to do with the guy is Haymon. Now doing the math, we have say 3 fights in 24 months with the champion. Wilder. If Wilder loses a fight, there's a rematch. If he does not lose, there are other fights to make not involving the southpaw. The business aspects of the sport are going to do him in. Can you imagine the chump change Haymon would give him for another title opportunity? He had his chance against Wilder and lost. And you have to get Showtime to approve the match which translates to the old guy Ortiz continuing to win impressively. That pretty much translates to the c grade heavies with possibly a B grade.
This is starting to irritate me but I understand it's a tactic by Wilder Fanboys to try and deflect the fact Wilder has just been offered a career high payday AGAIN to fight Whyte this time in the US and they know Wilder will fight Breazeale for a quater of what he could earn against Whyte and it's very difficult to defend that decision so they have stopped screaming "Duck" and started screaming "Ortiz", its see through and a little embarrassing. Ortiz, let's talk, One solid win, Bryant Jennings, 3 years ago, Jennings has done nothing since and neither has Ortiz. And he tested positive for a banned substance AFTER that, so how good was that win in the first place? I'll keep asking the same questions, Did anybody see Ortiz Vs Scott and Allen? If you saw those fights then you can't really rate Ortiz that highly, he is a decent Heavyweight, that's all, DECENT. Tell me a list of his best wins and when they were and convince me he is legit in 2018 and now he is clean. If you won't do that then stop saying any fighter is afraid to fight Ortiz FFS, its ridiculous, it's been said he is actually 10 years older than he says he is, it's a fact he is on medication for a heart condition and he hasn't beat a decent Heavyweight since Jennings several years ago and he was more than likely on the juice when he did it.
Ortiz is too dangerous for Matchroom fighters take them off the list. Whyte ducked and AJ ducked. G-Sora is the only one with heart who would fight him from Matchroom. Miller won’t fight him either. By the way why is Millers matchmaking so ****ing soft