Who does Ortiz get next?

Miller's matchmaking is poor.....

But it's a lot stronger than Wilder's lol

 

This is bull****.

You acutally have to watch Ortiz fights to understand WHY he is so ****ing dangerous.

You do not understand why he is such a dangerous BOGEYMAN watching only highlight videos on Youtube.

This guy hasn't lost barely a round of boxing in his WHOLE career apart from the Jennings and Wilder fights.

He absolutely destroyed Jennings out there who wasn't even knocked down/out by Wlad.

Ortiz won ALL rounds vs Scott and knocked him down three ****ing times. Scott was on the run that night. Ortiz without a training camp before.

He knocked out Tony Thompson. Thompson may have been past his prime but still he was only stopped three times in his career, twice by Wlad and once by Ortiz.

Ortiz was the first guy who stopped Dave Allen, Yoka needed 10 rounds to stop Allen by the way. And Ortiz didn't have a proper training camp for most of those fights, took the fights on late occasion.

Everyone who doesn't recognize why Ortiz is so highly rated DKSAB. Fact.

Ortiz is a world class southpaw with unreal counterpunching skills, REAL POWER, his ring iq is probably one of the best in the HWD and his boxing skills overall are world class, i can't see a better boxer in the HWD right now than Luis Ortiz skillwise. Ten years younger he would rule the whole division and would be unified hw world champion for sure. Maybe Tyson Fury could crack him but i am not so sure about that if we are talking about a 10 years younger version of King Kong.

It's a shame he is 39 years old and wasted the majority of his career, 5 years ago with the right promotion team behind and a bit more HUNGER for success he should have won a world title.

Still, Ortiz is #3 HW out there. No ****ing question.

Watch his fights and then come back. Youtube highlight videos aren't a good thing to learn things about boxing or fighters. Watch FULL fights.

Calling Ortiz "decent" is a joke and doesn't show your boxing knowledge at all.

 

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I am not a fan of Kownacki who is very overrated at the moment and so easy hit I'd be surprised he if he survives a round against Ortiz.

Martin doesn't deserve a fight with top heavyweight at the moment which Ortiz is. Martin vs Washington or Kownacki makes sense.

I'd love to see Ortiz fight either Parker or Whyte. For me, these 3 are currently the 4th-6th best HWs in world at present behind AJ, Wilder and Povetkin.

 

I asked a simple question..

Tell me who has Ortiz beat to justify what you are saying, in my opinion he is a bit of a hype job and a proven drug cheat.

One good win against Jennings, was he juicing then and what the hell has Jennings done? Is that even a good win?

Just name me a list of fighters that Ortiz has beat that makes him a top 3 Heavyweight, really simple question.

The fact you try and make a shot to pieces Thompson sound like a decent win is beyond embarrassing FFS and you have the nerve to say I don't know anything about boxing? You must be high.

Dave Allen was stopped on his feet, ffs, Yoka is a 5 fight novice and you are using him as yard stick to say Ortiz beating Allen is a good win, errrr Lenroy Thomas beat Allen.


Explain the Malik Scott fight away? Just a bad night right?


Yes I have seen Ortiz highlights on YouTube, knocking out journeymen, I suggest you go and watch Ortiz Vs Scott and Allen in full and come back and tell me he is a top 3 Heavyweight.


By calling Ortiz top 3 shows just how little you know about boxing.

You have exposed yourself as YouTube highlight reel casual, the proof is in the resume and Ortiz resume is p*** poor when you actually look at it and you know it.

 

Lmao, you are even more dumb than i thought you are. You can not even read correctly. I assume you are quit at school in your youth?

Rating a fighter based on his resume is the dumbest thing i have ever read here.

Watch Ortiz fights in full length and stop bullshiting my time, you moron.

You have no idea about boxing.

I give a **** about his resume, resume is one thing, skills another. I never wrote Ortiz has a Top 3 resume.

Resume isn'T winning fights you clown. Skill does. Power does.

better stop embarassing yourself here as an idiot...better it is

 

Is that you admitting that Wilder's matchmaking is worse than Miller?

 

So you want to go with the old "eye test", Yes I've done that with Ortiz, I watched his fights with Malik Scott, Dave Allen and Wilder and a long list of journeymen.

Want to explain Scott and Allen to me? Who else has he beat?..

Oh my mistake, that doesn't matter right? Neither does the fact he is a proven drug cheat?

So if a fighter looks amazing against Journeymen, old men or bang average fighters he has a claim to top 3 or is top 3 in your opinion.. just based on the old eye test, his opposition is irrelevant.

Oh right, so let me make sure I understand this.. he is a top 3 fighter without a top 3 resume.. OK. And you don't have to prove you're top 3 by beating other top fighters you just have to look like it against poor opposition.

Yeah I'm getting it, it takes me a while, I am a little bit slow and uneducated.

Yeah, Thank you, I like this way of looking at things. Hmmm so if my beautiful Tottenham Hotspur look amazing against Leyton Orient pre season I'll claim they are the best football team in the world because they looked like it, fine with me, I like it.

And I'm an uneducated moron?

FFS

 

Now he is comparing football with boxing. My gosh.

You said you watched the fight Ortiz vs Wilder in full length. So you know why Ortiz is #3 in the circuit. Or you are simply TOO dumb. Possible.

 

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18 months ago, Ortiz Vs Dave Allen, 9-1-1, basically a novice and walking punchbag Vs a Top 3 Heavyweight, a Top 3 Heavyweight who takes 7 rounds to get a stoppage win, a stoppage win that Allen was standing upright for.

Yeah OK, if you say so.

 

I guess if Miller fighting Wilders leftovers worst then yeah you’re right

 

You are a moron. Definitely.

1. Dillian Whyte wasn't able to stop Dave Allen in a Ten rounder.

2. Ortiz took the Allen fight two weeks before without having a training camp and directly after his win over Malik Scott where he didn't have a proper training camp TOO you shitface. He took both fights in his worst shape and still won 19/19 rounds and knocked down Scott three times and stopped Allen.

You are too dumb to recognize your own dumbness. You are posting **** from the left to the right.

Better stop embarassing yourself.

We all know you DKSAB but if you want continue like that...please...two more pages of those bull**** and you are probably the worst poster in here.

 

I think Ortiz and Breazeale should fight next, and the winner becomes the WBC mandatory after #1 ranked Dillian Whyte gets his opportunity.

A Wilder-Whyte/Ortiz-Breazeale card would be solid.

I'd like to see Wilder-Whyte by the end of this year.

If Whyte and Hearn aren't interested, I'd like to see Wilder-Tyson Fury with Ortiz-Breazeale on the undercard.

 

Whyte he just fought and so did ortiz.

 

Now who looks uneducated? I said I like your way of thinking and applied to another Sport, I am just using your logic.

I wasn't comparing the two sports, you are talking about eye tests and what you see and apparently resume and opposition are unimportant..

You said that, I'll quote it again if you like?

Oh right, So now it's his performance against Wilder that makes him top 3?

Make your mind up, it's either the eye tests you've done against p*** poor opponents or his resume/opposition that you said didn't mean anything.