Who does Wlad beat against these old time Heavyweights?

That's a terrible misconception about heavyweight in the past. Just because they were a *little bit* smaller doesn't mean they can't compete with the Klitschko's. And most of the heavyweights in the 70's were much bigger than Byrd you blind idiot. You need to watch fights in the past compared to the ones in this generation, and you will see that the heavyweights today fight much worse. Eddie Chambers is 6'1, a natural cruiserweight, he's probably the second best skilled heavyweight today behind Wlad. If you think Wlad will be able to just simply go in his shell behind that jab and beat Ali that way, well your sadly mistaken. Because Wlad has proven that he doesn't like oppoents when they are able to land their shots, and he doesn't like to trade, and Ali would brake Wladimir out of his shell for sure.

 

yeah!

except for jackie chan :rasta

 

both of you said nothing rational so far on how ali beats wlad. just an observation.. some saliva, gestures but thats about it.

 

I could say the same thing about you idiot. This is a hypothetical matchup after all, and mgal7414 hasn't said anything rational either.

 

there you go

 

Some historical physical perspective on some fighters. I am not saying they're without chance prime for prime against modern day heavyweights. But I bet they could have unleashed a lot more of their potential if they grew up and trained today, with today's training technology/science (e.g. altitude/hypoxic training) and nutrition/dietary supplements than those of 40s/50s/60s/70s

Marciano: 5′ 10″

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Ali/Clay: 6′ 3″

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Liston: 6′ 0"

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Louis: 6′ 2″

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Holmes: 6' 3"

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Frazier: 5′ 11"

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Two of the best pressure fighters/in-fighters/punchers in the history if the heavyweight division against a fighter who can't handle pressure, has a weak chin and no inside game and they're the ones at a stylistic disadvantage?

 

Wlad wouldn't beat any of them. I think if he caught Frazier with a bomb he could knock him out, and that would be his best chance at pulling out a win against these guys, but I think Frazier would make Wlad lose his **** with his fast, non-stop pressure, and devastating body attack. Actually, in Frazier I see his best chance to win, but also his most devastating and decisive defeat.

 

Spare me the 1876' Louis beats him ****, watch a fit and motivated Schmeling dismantle him with ONE punch (right hook / overhand) all night long. I know, I know, don't write it, Louis = god and he beats Wlad with one hand, easily. Look up Louis size one day and tell me he gets past the best jab in the business from a 6'6" olympic champion fighter who grabs and holds whenever small men close the gap. Same thing for the other old times tough men who use their face for blocking punches, and have the agility of a 1930 basketball player meeting the one of a 2009 NBA player.

Holmes is 50:50 stylistically, whoever employs his gameplan wins. Could be Holmes, but could be that being 6'3", the longer jab of the taller man doing the same (sitting behind the jab) doesn't allow him. Wouldn't bet it though.

 

Joe Louis was a very skillful boxer, all his techniques were modern, basically ahead of his time. He was losing to Billy Conn but was able to knock him out in the 13th round, that's a sign of resilience and ring intelligence. I think he beat Billy Conn in the rematch without so much of a struggle. Would he beat Wlad? Probably not, but Joe Louis is not your typical 6'3 boxer, nor is he a Calvin Brock, or Tony Thompson.

 

Wlad isn't unbeatable as some of his fans make him out to be. Ali in his prime beats Wladimir, so does Holmes, maybe Fraizer. Tyson, Holyfield, and Lewis in their prime would beat Wlad.

 

lol and most of the top heavyweighst today don't use their face for blocking punches? What about Samuel Peter, Cristobal Arreola, Nikolai Valuev, Calvin Brock, etc? All those boxers have a weak skill set, poor defense, and weak fundamentals. I would say the boxers in the 90's all the way down to the 1950's are much more skilled compared to the heavyweights today.

 

Wheres the option 'no-one'?

 

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